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Naruto Speed Possible Upgrade
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The calc isn't inflated just because you think so, sorry.
We've already debunked that too. The meteor is plainly shown coming in after the warning. There's zero reason for it not to. You're just repeating yourself at this point.
We've already debunked that too. The meteor is plainly shown coming in after the warning. There's zero reason for it not to. You're just repeating yourself at this point.
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Came into view doesn't mean that's when he sent it for the last time. Hell, I can calc that and prove that when we see the meteor come into view, it's not the same distance as the moon.
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It is inflated. Thinking that the meteor was sent in the interval between two speech bubbles rather than before is baseless.
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Cal, you know full well that this isn't a good argument when talking about fiction. How else were we supposed to see a meteor coming?
By it taking much longer than the inflated calc assumes, because it has zero showings of "relativistic" speeds aside from that literal one second. It makes far more sense for him to send it prior to his warning, because he's still casually chilling in the moon talking to himself afterwards. Also, a warning shot always comes before the words.
Except the movie shows the meteor start coming after he dissapears. Try watching the scene at 0.25x. It doesn't matter if it makes sense or not when the movie shows it after he dissapears. It's just ad hoc at this point.
By it taking much longer than the inflated calc assumes, because it has zero showings of "relativistic" speeds aside from that literal one second. It makes far more sense for him to send it prior to his warning, because he's still casually chilling in the moon talking to himself afterwards. Also, a warning shot always comes before the words.
Except the movie shows the meteor start coming after he dissapears. Try watching the scene at 0.25x. It doesn't matter if it makes sense or not when the movie shows it after he dissapears. It's just ad hoc at this point.
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@Kep. It's inflated when you're the only staff member arguing for its legitimacy. Me, Matt, Sera, Griffin...
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@Cal
Burning is also arguing for it. Several knowledgeable members agree with it. You're downplaying Naruto. Sorry to break it for you, but calling the fans biased and then trying to get a downgrade passed while I was asleep is just as dishonest.
Also, thanks for proving you have to appeal to popularity now.
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Incorrect. I've posted proof it was after; both BMW and I have. Until you post proof it wasn't, it stands.
Burning is also arguing for it. Several knowledgeable members agree with it. You're downplaying Naruto. Sorry to break it for you, but calling the fans biased and then trying to get a downgrade passed while I was asleep is just as dishonest.
Also, thanks for proving you have to appeal to popularity now.
@Matt
Incorrect. I've posted proof it was after; both BMW and I have. Until you post proof it wasn't, it stands.
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I like how no one of them brought a real reason...
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Ah, so being staff automatically makes your arguments being right. Good to know.The real cal howard said:
@Matt
Prove it.
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All your last post did is make me realize how desperate you are at this point. You have realized you no longer have any way to lessen a solid feat by analyzing the scene.
Sorry, but the water isn't getting past the firmament's floodgates.
Sorry, but the water isn't getting past the firmament's floodgates.
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Alright, you want me to use the movie as proof? How about the fact that when we see the meteor past that initial five seconds, it's going nowhere near relativistic speeds. Or how about if any of you decided to calculate how far that meteor was from the planet, you'd see that the meteor wasn't at the moon by the time we see it. Meaning that via calcs, that meteor was sent before the illusion ended.
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Are you seriously using Cinematic Time as an argument? Are you really this desperate?
How about the fact this meteor was a lunar fragment and confirmed to have come from the Moon?
I have zero idea of how you came to that last idea, but I do have an idea of why you haven't addressed any of the relevant arguments and just repeated that bit.
How about the fact this meteor was a lunar fragment and confirmed to have come from the Moon?
I have zero idea of how you came to that last idea, but I do have an idea of why you haven't addressed any of the relevant arguments and just repeated that bit.
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im in agreement with Kep here. id add more ot it but the wiki is lagging for me and i dont know why
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And Star Wars' blasters are subsonic.The real cal howard said:
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I disagree with this heavily.The real cal howard said:
there are a ton of times Fairytail got upgrades for the sake upgrades... it took forever for someone to notice that they were wrong.
for all the wank Naruto does get it gets the same amount of downplay in fact due to it's popularity it gets far more downplay that FT
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Look, I'm gonna calm down. Sorry for getting heated.
Firstly, @Lephyr. Star Wars blasters would be subsonic if it wasn't for statements saying they're higher. The same scene shows the meteor much slower than the calc is saying. Secondly, @Kep. Remember, the calc was originally denied due to cinematic timing. Anyway, it shows that the meteor, like most meteors we treat here, aren't the same speed within the earth's atmosphere. What I was saying before was that with the knowledge the meteor came from the moon, a calc would prove that said meteor would have to have came before the illusion ended.
Firstly, @Lephyr. Star Wars blasters would be subsonic if it wasn't for statements saying they're higher. The same scene shows the meteor much slower than the calc is saying. Secondly, @Kep. Remember, the calc was originally denied due to cinematic timing. Anyway, it shows that the meteor, like most meteors we treat here, aren't the same speed within the earth's atmosphere. What I was saying before was that with the knowledge the meteor came from the moon, a calc would prove that said meteor would have to have came before the illusion ended.
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For the upgrade: Shadow, Kep, Blacke, Lephyr, BMW, Hindzolia, Ricsi, Omimi, Rocker, Astral, Final, Burning
Against: Dark649, Cal, Matt, Sera, Griffin, Knight, Blue, Tata
Against: Dark649, Cal, Matt, Sera, Griffin, Knight, Blue, Tata
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we have calcs that put blasters anywhere between Hypersonic to MHS+The real cal howard said:
so no not subsonic
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It doesn't show anything about the meteor's true speed. It's Cinematic Timing. If this logic were to be accepted, the meteor wouldn't be a thousandth of the speed of a real meteor, which is 100% false in any case. Your argument isn't an argument.
The calc was originally denied before we debunked the arguments against it. Then it was deemed fine.
No, it wouldn't. If your logic were true, that meteor would have taken years to arrive at the Earth's surface as opposed to the few extra seconds that would add. Seriously, don't use Cinematic Timing as an argument. Every single feat in this wiki will receive the same treatment.
The calc was originally denied before we debunked the arguments against it. Then it was deemed fine.
No, it wouldn't. If your logic were true, that meteor would have taken years to arrive at the Earth's surface as opposed to the few extra seconds that would add. Seriously, don't use Cinematic Timing as an argument. Every single feat in this wiki will receive the same treatment.
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Everybody please calm down. Staff members should be able to disagree with each other about fictional statistics without being disrespectful. It creates a bad mood in the wiki. Cal is usually very friendly and Kepekley is usually very helpful. They are both valuable parts of our community.
Anyway, this thread almost has 500 posts, at which point it will automatically close. As such, some staff member should immediately start a new thread and link to it here.
Anyway, this thread almost has 500 posts, at which point it will automatically close. As such, some staff member should immediately start a new thread and link to it here.
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please for the love of god close this thread now. I cant tell you how stressful it was to read the comments going back and foward to downgrade Naruto verse speed when everything Kep said is logically correct. Can we please make a rule to not downgrade naruto verse speed. We even got calcs from Gwen for madaras speed and people try to downgrade it. Sorry but its annoying
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This thread has been closed quite a few times by now. Glitchy, sillyyy wiki.
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Part II: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1652066
I stand by every inch of what I've said here and agree with the other supporters.
I stand by every inch of what I've said here and agree with the other supporters.
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Glitch tuesday huh lol
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