Naruto revisions: longer than the actual series

[BlackeJan]

Since when is the anime good for anything?

Find me the supposed beating Orochimaru took. Tsunade only landed two hits in the etire fight.

Lol whats wrong w/ the anime? it still uphold how the manga goes (anime just emphasizes a little more is all) though yes its true what u said about her getting 2 hit but still Orochimaru says "one hit can end your life" and this was b4 the fight actually began (when everyon was also in top shape)

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Shrek

Mei will also be at 7-B via melting Madara's Susanoo, and 7-B also applies to others. Like...Hiruzen and Danzo?

 

[Kepekley23]

Sasuke's Incomplete Susanoo crushed Danzo like a grape, though.

 

[BlackeJan]

I honestly don't care about Tsunade's rating, as long as it doesn't scale to Part 1.

Well Orochimaru is At Least 7-C so Tsunade should also be that Tier. Using the Strength of Hundred Seal should make her like High 7-C is Im right thats (Large Town Level). Idk what she is in Shippuden so u guys can figure that out but I got enough proof that Tsunade is up there w/ Orochimaru & Jiraiya

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Shrek

Mei will also be at 7-B via melting Madara's Susanoo, and 7-B also applies to others. Like...Hiruzen and Danzo?

Hiruzen as he can fight orochimaru

Danzo why?

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Let's look at it like this:

• Orochimaru: Fought Kn4 Naruto to a Standstill (Wasn't at 100% as his Body was continuously rejecting him).

• Jiraiya: Fought Kn4 Naruto and settled him down while suffering fatal injuries in Base (Was holding back against his student not intending to kill him).

Do you all see a pattern forming?

When they all fought:

• Jiraiya was drugged

• Orochimaru was in pain and couldn't mold Chakra

Until Jiraiya and co got there, Tsunade was already low on stamina from trying to get Kabuto and Orochimaru. This is stated and shown. Kabuto had taken a Ninja pellet and remember, they replinish your chakra and gives you extra stamina. So, when Kabuto actually went at Tsunade, she was exhausted meaning she wasn't as fast or as strong as she was when Starting. So, Kabuto doesn't scale to Tsunade at all, at best, Kaguto and Kakashi in part 1 can keep up with her. Kakashi more so with Sharingan.

(About to head to class, I'll continue later).

 

[Kepekley23]

Orochimaru never fought KN4 Naruto to a standstill, he was just barely keeping up with him.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

About Danzo, I was looking at his page.

Anyway, I'm sure there are others that scale to the upgrades.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Um Hiruzen(Scales to Orochimaru), 7-B

Base Hashi(scales to base tsunade possibly 100 seals), 7-B,Possibly At least 7-B

A(Lightning armor A should be comparable to tsunades base form), 7-B

Tobirama(Scales to Orochimaru,Hiruzen for the finger feat and hiruzens comment that his power is amazing), 7-B

physical Madara(Could block lightning armor A punch and kcm narutos rasengan), 7-B

Mei(Could melt and tanked a hit from madaras susanoo which should be comparable to base madara) 7-B

Tsunade should be City+ base form(for being strongest sannin physically and rest of the reasons i mentioned above) while 100 Seals At least City+(One shot madara who could block lightning armor A punch)

Thats about it

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Like Nagato i think?

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Nagato aswell mb i missed him itachi also possibly

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

What about Hanzo?

 

[Dark649]

What about Hanzo?

He fougth the Sannins when they were not 7-B, i think.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

What about Hanzo?

Its questionable as we know pain easily killed him and we dont know how

strong were the sannin at the time they fought but i would propose At least 7-C(Fought Mifune twice who should be comparable to Kitsuchi) Possibly 7-B(Defeated combined efforts of the sannin but it is not know if sannin were this strong at that time)

 

[LordWhis]

I personally think- Orochimaru >= Strength Of A Thousand Seal Tsunade >= Sage Mode Jiraiya.

Tsunade breaking Madara's ribcage > anything SM Jiraiya has ever done.


Also what do people think about High 6-C V2 Killer B ? (Since V2 Roshi is already at this level)

I think Hanzo could be 7-A if he stomped 7-B Sannin

 

[Dark649]

Hanzo being that much stronger than the 7-B+'s is actually inconsistent and disagreed.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Shrek and Dark

I mean, didn't Hanzo get weaker? And Jiraiya was surprised Pain beat him.

Also, I agree with Dark's latest comment.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

I guess i support darks last comment aswell as it seems illogical to me

@LordWhis

Strenght of hundred seal Tsunade>>>Base tsunade>=Orochimaru

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Um Hiruzen(Scales to Orochimaru), 7-B

Base Hashi(scales to base tsunade possibly 100 seals), 7-B,Possibly At least 7-B

A(Lightning armor A should be comparable to tsunades base form), 7-B

Tobirama(Scales to Orochimaru,Hiruzen for the finger feat and hiruzens comment that his power is amazing), 7-B

physical Madara(Could block lightning armor A punch and kcm narutos rasengan), 7-B

Mei(Could melt and tanked a hit from madaras susanoo which should be comparable to base madara) 7-B

Tsunade should be City+ base form(for being strongest sannin physically and rest of the reasons i mentioned above) while 100 Seals At least City+(One shot madara who could block lightning armor A punch)

Thats about it

Anyway can these changes be applied?

Do u agree disagree with anything?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

For Hiruzen, I think so. The others could affect other profiles, so let's wait a bit. Madara should be upgraded with Katon as well

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Orochimaru never fought KN4 Naruto to a standstill, he was just barely keeping up with him.

Not true, part of their fight was off panel as well.

 

[LordWhis]

Base Hashi is 6-B not 7-B.

 

[Dark649]

Base Hashi is 6-B not 7-B.

The 6-B is based from his wood attacks and defenses.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

For Hiruzen, I think so. The others could affect other profiles, so let's wait a bit. Madara should be upgraded with Katon as well

Nah no one gets affected by these changes besides mentioned characters but waiting for more input is advisable so lets wait to see if anyone disagrees

 

[Omimi]

Base Hashi is 6-B not 7-B.

The 6-B is based from his wood attacks and defenses.

agree

 

[LordWhis]

Nah no one gets affected by these changes besides mentioned characters but waiting for more input is advisable so lets wait to see if anyone disagrees

I'd recommend giving Nagato & Itachi the upgrade as well.

Maybe even war arc & hokage Kakashi.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, Base B, Kisame & Guy should scales too.

Ohnoki, Mu, the 2nd Mizukage & Minato should also scale.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Sasuke's Amaterasu could be City level now, and it scales to Itachi.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

So does this mean the 7-C tier is getting removed entirely? Or do some characters still scale from it?

 

[LordWhis]

Also, I just found out that Deidara is Low 6-B, seriously ?


Also, what is people's opinion on high 6-c V2 Killer B ?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Julian

Dunno, that's why I said many people could end up scaling from this, and not just a few.

To be honest, I'm iffy on High 6-C Version 2 jinchüriki. I think likely far higher or something is best.

 

[Rocker1189]

Also, I just found out that Deidara is Low 6-B, seriously ?


Also, what is people's opinion on high 6-c V2 Killer B ?

Did you see the size of that final C-0 bomb lol. That was above any nuke.

 

[LordWhis]

The largest nuke ever was only 7-B BTW.

The entire nuclear arsenal of the world at its height during the cold war was merely 6-C

 

[PaChi2]

We need another thread.