Mjolnir addition to the wiki

[Teezar]

When Thor and Eric Masterson clashed their enchanted hammers they generated a wave of uncontrollable mystical energy that exploded simultaneously in all planes of reality, it is also mentioned that not since the big bang had such power been unleashed in the universe and that they powered a machine

The second scan just basically said they shocked the cosmos.

When Thor and Eric Masterson clashed their enchanted hammers they generated a wave of uncontrollable mystical energy that exploded simultaneously in all planes of reality, it is also mentioned that not since the big bang had such power been unleashed in the universe and that they powered a machine capable of unifying timelines.

Looking at everything again I don't see teir 2 except stated to affect all planes of reality while the second just talked about shaking the cosmos but I'm no marvel expert.
And supplying energy to a machine capable of unifying timelines in the timestream doesn't seem teir 2 to me at all.

Thor with two Mjolnirs was able to absorb and withstands Gorr's Divine Bomb,

This is absorption and resistance to EE to me though. As he absorbed the energy and tanked the attack which was erasing gods through time.

which was to kill all the gods of the universe throughout space and time, including Odin and Zeus.

Resistance to EE.

Jane Foster (Thor) crashed two Mjolnirs and cracked the walls of time and space to summon the terrible lightning that forged the cosmos itself to eliminate All-Father Ultron.

I'm seeing space-time Manipulation and summoning here.

But would like to see other's input.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

"Thor with two Mjolnirs was able to absorb and withstands Gorr's Divine Bomb, which was to kill all the gods of the universe throughout space and time, including Odin and Zeus."


Thor obtained an amp from the necrosword at the same time as he did the feat, Gorr wonders why Godbomb didn't work and where his weapon is located, Thor tells him that the necrosword left him and laughs at Gorr.

There is also the possibility that the gods become stronger while praying to said god.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

Thor obtained an amp from the necrosword at the same time as he did the feat, Gorr wonders why Godbomb didn't work and where his weapon is located, Thor tells him that the necrosword left him and laughs at Gorr.

The Necrosword only left Gorr after Thor absorbed the full power of the bomb. Thor was clearly using the two Mjolnirs to channel the power of the bomb.

There is also the possibility that the gods become stronger while praying to said god.

It remains to be seen whether this is true.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

The second scan just basically said they shocked the cosmos.
Looking at everything again I don't see teir 2 except stated to affect all planes of reality while the second just talked about shaking the cosmos but I'm no marvel expert.
And supplying energy to a machine capable of unifying timelines in the timestream doesn't seem teir 2 to me at all.

This is not so much to support level 2, but rather to show that there is a special amplifier when two Mjolnirs are together.

This is absorption and resistance to EE to me though. As he absorbed the energy and tanked the attack which was erasing gods through time.

Resistance to EE.

The God Bomb does not erase the gods from existence.

I'm seeing space-time Manipulation and summoning here.

But would like to see other's input.

Yeah, okay, but what about summoning a lightning/shockwave capable of killing Ultron with Odin's powers?

 

[KLOL506]

Also we already have a universe-shaking feat as a standard feat, no? In the "Half a universe away" feat, we just use half the result of shaking the entire universe.

I also remember Spino saying there was a discord server dedicated to find more 4-A feats but uh... that never came to be.

 

[Teezar]

This is not so much to support level 2, but rather to show that there is a special amplifier when two Mjolnirs are together.

Of course 2 is greater than 1.

The God Bomb has no erasure of Existence

You scan said it was erasing gods from all time and space.

Yeah ok but how about summoning a beam/shockwave capable of killing Ultron with Odin's powers.

I would like to see the scan.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

You scan said it was erasing gods from all time and space.

If you look at the comic Thor God of Thunder #11 you will see that when the God Bomb goes off the gods are not erased from existence.

I would like to see the scan.

 

[Teezar]

If you watch the comic you will see that the gods are not erased from existence.

I haven't read it just stating what are stated in your scans.

Did ultron show power on Odin's level stated be any like such and in possession of Odin's power increased his durability plus that scan isn't enough especially as they stated he has vanished which could possibly bring another option of teleportation.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

Also we already have a universe-shaking feat as a standard feat, no? In the "Half a universe away" feat, we just use half the result of shaking the entire universe.

I've already calculated that.

Marvel Comics - Jane Foster shakes worlds half a universe away

vsbattles.fandom.com

I also remember Spino saying there was a discord server dedicated to find more 4-A feats but uh... that never came to be.

There is a Discord group currently collecting feats for Marvel, I've spent some 4-A there.

 

[Antvasima]

When two Mjolnir are together they potentiate each other as if it were a special amplifier, this can be seen in the following cases:

• When Thor and Eric Masterson clashed their enchanted hammers they generated a wave of uncontrollable mystical energy that exploded simultaneously in all planes of reality, it is also mentioned that not since the big bang had such power been unleashed in the universe and that they powered a machine capable of unifying timelines.
• Thor with two Mjolnirs was able to absorb and withstands Gorr's Divine Bomb, which was to kill all the gods of the universe throughout space and time, including Odin and Zeus.
• Jane Foster (Thor) crashed two Mjolnirs and cracked the walls of time and space to summon the terrible lightning that forged the cosmos itself to eliminate All-Father Ultron.

This would make two Mjolnirs together be: At least 2-C, possibly 2-A

@Zensum @C2_of_Omegon @Eficiente @Qawsedf234 @SuperAPM @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepme @Newendigo @Ehnkr2beboh @Tllmbrg @Elizio33 @LordTracer @The_Impress @Confluctor @MarvelFanatic119

What do you think about this?

 

[Eficiente]

Ok. To take readers by the hand better there should be some text saying that their combined power is greater than the sum of their individual power alone.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Agreed.

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

So, what are the choices so far? Is it okay if Mjolnir has the 4A key, or will we continue with the 4B one?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not remember so well anymore. A summary of the discussion so far would be appreciated.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

So, what are the choices so far? Is it okay if Mjolnir has the 4A key, or will we continue with the 4B one?

Which key are you referring to?

 

[Kulf_Boba]

Mjolnir is still 4-B, and 4-A with Mother Storm.

 

[Antvasima]

A summary of the discussion so far would be appreciated.

Is somebody willing to provide an explanation, in order to help us proceed here, please?

 

[Kulf_Boba]

When two Mjolnir are together they potentiate each other as if it were a special amplifier, this can be seen in the following cases:

• When Thor and Eric Masterson clashed their enchanted hammers they generated a wave of uncontrollable mystical energy that exploded simultaneously in all planes of reality, it is also mentioned that not since the big bang had such power been unleashed in the universe and that they powered a machine capable of unifying timelines.
• Thor with two Mjolnirs was able to absorb and withstands Gorr's Divine Bomb, which was to kill all the gods of the universe throughout space and time, including Odin and Zeus.
• Jane Foster (Thor) crashed two Mjolnirs and cracked the walls of time and space to summon the terrible lightning that forged the cosmos itself to eliminate All-Father Ultron.

This would make two Mjolnirs together be: At least 2-C, possibly 2-A

This is the only thing left to discuss.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

@Zensum @C2_of_Omegon @Eficiente @Qawsedf234 @SuperAPM @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepme @Newendigo @Ehnkr2beboh @Tllmbrg @Elizio33 @LordTracer @The_Impress @Confluctor @MarvelFanatic119 @Stefano4444

What do you think about the above post?

 

[Stefano4444]

I guess that make somewhat sense, after all didn't Thor used 2 Mjolnirs to fight Gorr, who was at that point Skyfather level?

But wait, if we do that doesn't then his feat of shooking the stars while wielding 2 Mjolnirs will no longer be valid?

Since that its based on the assumption that having 2 Mjolnirs give Thor only a 2x strength increase, instead of make him far far stronger.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

I guess that make somewhat, after all didn't Thor used 2 Mjolnirs to fight Gorr, who was at that point Skyfather level?

But wait, if we do that doesn't then his feat of shooking the stars while wielding 2 Mjolnirs will no longer be valid?

Since that its based on the assumption that having 2 Mjolnirs give Thor only a 2x strength increase, instead of make him far far stronger.

Right, it would no longer be valid for his base form, although Thor has other star-shaking feats anyway.

 

[Confluctor]

Eh, not really interested in tiering for Thor and co, so I am afraid I don't have much of an opinion

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

 

[LordTracer]

When two Mjolnir are together they potentiate each other as if it were a special amplifier, this can be seen in the following cases:

• When Thor and Eric Masterson clashed their enchanted hammers they generated a wave of uncontrollable mystical energy that exploded simultaneously in all planes of reality, it is also mentioned that not since the big bang had such power been unleashed in the universe and that they powered a machine capable of unifying timelines.
• Thor with two Mjolnirs was able to absorb and withstands Gorr's Divine Bomb, which was to kill all the gods of the universe throughout space and time, including Odin and Zeus.
• Jane Foster (Thor) crashed two Mjolnirs and cracked the walls of time and space to summon the terrible lightning that forged the cosmos itself to eliminate All-Father Ultron.

This would make two Mjolnirs together be: At least 2-C, possibly 2-A

I think this makes sense, although citations for these scans would be nice.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Neutral on the 2 Mjolnir amp, but leaning on agreeing.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for the replies.