Vizer04
He/Him- 5,097
- 3,144
Hello, this is a new conservative speed scale for DBZ (Cell and Buu Sagas included). Everything here is backed up by statements from the manga and approved multipliers (not including SS2 and SS3).
Namek Saga Super Saiyan Goku > 596c, likely 1490c
Future Gohan scales above that, so > 596c, likely 1490c
Android 17 is double of that, so > 1192c, likely 2980c
Semi-Perfect Cell is double of that since absorption adds the power of the absorbed individual, so > 2384c, likely 5960c
Cell Saga SSJ Goku is double of that, so > 4768c, likely 11920c
Pre-training Base Gotenks scales above that, so > 4768c, likely 11920c
Pre-training Super Saiyan Gotenks > 238400c, likely 596000c
Post-training Base Gotenks scales above that, so > 238400c, likely 596000c
Post-training Super Saiyan Gotenks > 11920000c, likely 29800000c
Buutenks should be at least 2x stronger than Super Saiyan Gotenks by the same reasoning as Cell and 17. This applies to Buuhan and Base Vegito (it was stated in El Manga Legendario that Base Vegito was stronger than a hypothetical fusion of Goku and Gohan) as well for obvious reasons:
Buutenks, Buuhan and Base Vegito > 23840000c, likely 59600000c
Super Saiyan Vegito > 1192000000c, likely 2980000000c
To give you an idea of the speed, this means that it would take 264.56 seconds for Super Saiyan Vegito to fly to Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy (the closest galaxy to Earth).
EDIT: here's the blog with the calculations.
Namek Saga Super Saiyan Goku > 596c, likely 1490c
Future Gohan scales above that, so > 596c, likely 1490c
Android 17 is double of that, so > 1192c, likely 2980c
Semi-Perfect Cell is double of that since absorption adds the power of the absorbed individual, so > 2384c, likely 5960c
Cell Saga SSJ Goku is double of that, so > 4768c, likely 11920c
Pre-training Base Gotenks scales above that, so > 4768c, likely 11920c
Pre-training Super Saiyan Gotenks > 238400c, likely 596000c
Post-training Base Gotenks scales above that, so > 238400c, likely 596000c
Post-training Super Saiyan Gotenks > 11920000c, likely 29800000c
Buutenks should be at least 2x stronger than Super Saiyan Gotenks by the same reasoning as Cell and 17. This applies to Buuhan and Base Vegito (it was stated in El Manga Legendario that Base Vegito was stronger than a hypothetical fusion of Goku and Gohan) as well for obvious reasons:
Buutenks, Buuhan and Base Vegito > 23840000c, likely 59600000c
Super Saiyan Vegito > 1192000000c, likely 2980000000c
To give you an idea of the speed, this means that it would take 264.56 seconds for Super Saiyan Vegito to fly to Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy (the closest galaxy to Earth).
EDIT: here's the blog with the calculations.
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