Mewtwo's speed

[The_real_cal_howard]

Due to how stupidly above Pikachu he is, and how high MHS Pikachu is, maybe he should be MHS+? Applies to Mew.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Is Mewtwo that far above Pikachu in all stats, or is he just that much stronger powerwise?

Idk. The difference between mach 700 and mach 1000 is rather big.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Pikachu's Mach 808. And disregarding game mechanics, Pikachu is a rodent compared to Mewtwo. And yes. I know Pikachu is a rodent.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Huh.

Pikachu's Speed = Mach 695

Idk, since I'm not as invested in this verse and its many canons, but yeah. Idk.

Though, Mewtwo is legendary, maybe something like this?

At least MHS, likely MHS+ (vastly superior to Pikachu)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I guess so.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

The gap stills big


I think "At least Massively Hypersonic" is ok

 

[Cropfist]

I agree with Aiden, the gap is too big. The calc used for Pikachu's speed is mach 695, as Gemmysaur pointed out.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

. And yes. I know Pikachu is a rodent.

Thats mean

If anyone is a rodent its that blasted Radicate and its Ratatta minons.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The gap is less than 2x. The gap between Frieza's forms and the entirety of tier 4 DB is bigger gaps with tier jumps when it comes to powerscaling.

Obviously, not that I have a problem with that. It's just the only example I could think of considering how I had to tell someone why Frieza was star level.

 

[LordAizenSama]

in these cases "At least" is used. we don't use arbitrary speed upgrades like sometimes used for ap.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

That...doesn't make sense to me.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

The onlt time I remember a level jump in speed was for My Hero Academia, were the gap between tje calc and Mach 25 was x1.1095

 

[Joseph619]

That...doesn't make sense to me.

Well the wiki doesn't tier jump arbirtrarily without explciit calc from what I have seen, no matter how faster the other character is.

 

[Lina_Shields]

I have done a calculation for Mewtwo's AP and speed in my blog. Not sure if Pokken is canon to the main Pokemon univere though.

Aside from that, if someone can find a pokemon calc from the anime where it yields Massively Hypersonic+ results for speed (preferably from a legendary), we can scale that to Mewtwo or something.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Aren't our pokeprofiles composite?

 

[Lina_Shields]

Yes they are. Still, if there are any higher speed feats from the anime/game that reach MHS+, we can use that for Mewtwo.

Edit: Shouldn't Mewtwo be faster than Shaymin, who is rated MHS+ for speed?

 

[Gemmysaur]

I dunno about Shaymin, but probably?

What about this? Is this even quantifiable? Mega Mewtwo flying to space I mean. It's probably difficult since it's cut into two parts with Genesect scenes in between, and there's lots of close-up shots.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Isn't Mega Mewtwo already rated higher than regular Mewtwo accordig to its profile or something in terms of speed?

Mega Mewtwo is rated Sub-Relativistic.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Oh, yeah. My bad. I don't remember any other Mewtwo appearance, so yeah.