Metal Gear Discussion Thread

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Several aren't casual. And they have FTL anti-feats, such as Gray Fox getting memed by REX's very beam and it being hitscan as just a single obvious one.

I mean, he’s relativistic+ not FTL. Relativistic allows you to dodge lasers from a distance not point blank. Some guy also said there are scans about Snake having dodged the whole arsenal of Rex.

Literally just one single rel feat isn't enough to mitigate that.

I mean, like I said, most HHS and MHS feats were casual. Of course there are exceptions, but reaction has to do with focus too. And of course it could be for dramatic effect.

Yes because neither of those have anything to do with speed. Actual nonsequitor.
It's especially irrelevant because the first one is subject to inconsistency as well, and the second one is like, just electricity resistance, maybe 8-C given I recalced it a few days ago, shit was never 8-B to begin with.

I’m pretty sure lightning has joules and KE too, and not just electricity resistance. It would be just electricity resistance only if the yield in volts was unknown. But here we know it.

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Not blogged yet, just steal it when it's up.

I wanna use it for some Metal Gear debates, would appreciate if you can. Also, thank you for the lifting feat idea, I’ve calculated it and got 3,53 billion tons, or Class T. The KE is a bit of an outlier however

 

[Chariot190]

I mean, he’s relativistic+ not FTL. Relativistic allows you to dodge lasers from a distance not point blank

It wasnt pointblank, he legit got hitscanned.

. Some guy also said there are scans about Snake having dodged the whole arsenal of Rex.

That would actually be super useful, find that.

I mean, like I said, most HHS and MHS feats were casual. Of course there are exceptions, but reaction has to do with focus too. And of course it could be for dramatic effect.

It is what it is. Some of the highest feats require effort or barely happened. Obviously there's casual bullet feats, but some of the high end stuff isn't "casual".

Dramatic effect is just how it is, you could argue that against anything.

Speaking of focus, the fastest thing in MGV is a MHS railgun, that you can barely avoid in bullet time.

I’m pretty sure lightning has joules and KE too, and not just electricity resistance.

You're right, but due to how it interacts with bodies and a whole slew of extra fuckys, electricity is like nigh-impossible to scale to durability without a whole bunch of caveats.

Even then, I recalced it a few days ago, Volgin's lightning punches against BB only inflicted 9-A+ levels of energy (almost baseline tho, like 0.23 tons).

It would be just electricity resistance only if the yield in volts was unknown. But here we know it.

That isn't how it works, you need to factor in tissue resistance, the area in which it's inflicted, if any of it was discharged, loss of energy from the source, the amperes of the jolts, etc.

I wanna use it for some Metal Gear debates, would appreciate if you can.

I'll do it after EoW shit.

Also, thank you for the lifting feat idea, I’ve calculated it and got 3,53 billion tons, or Class T. The KE is a bit of an outlier however

How? If you're talking about the excel leg throw, you do not use KE for that, you need to recalculate velocity every time to avoid calc stacking. What you do, is just take the fact he dusted like 2000 tons of CNT.

 

[Ednaxel2]

That would actually be super useful, find that.

It’s in the mission log for the Metal Gear REX boss fight

Metal Gear Solid Text Dump - gamefaq

 

[McFriesGuy075]

It’s in the mission log for the Metal Gear REX boss fight

Metal Gear Solid Text Dump - gamefaq

Hm... Doesn't say entire arsenal. I don't think this can be used as support

 

[Chariot190]

It’s in the mission log for the Metal Gear REX boss fight

Metal Gear Solid Text Dump - gamefaq

That's way less impressive thn I was expecting

I mean it ain't wrong but it ain't saying "yo snake dodged the rel+ beam" in a way that'd enable us to calc it wouldnt be able to regardless, in game it's hitscan, literally impossible to calc him avoiding it after it was fired, he has to dodge by just aimdodging in the actual game.

 

[Ednaxel2]

Hm... Doesn't say entire arsenal. I don't think this can be used as support

REX uses the laser during the boss fight so it should include that, I don’t see why it shouldn’t. Not calculable though but it is worth to note in some way

 

[Chariot190]

I mean, yeah it probably would include it, the problem is we know by just playing the game that to avoid it, Snake doesn't like, dodge the beam, he just moves out of the way before it fires, and then outpaces it trailing him.

This just circles back to the first issue tho, rex's beam is the most blatant FTL anti-feat they got and it's kind of an important one at that.

 

[McFriesGuy075]

I mean, yeah it probably would include it, the problem is we know by just playing the game that to avoid it, Snake doesn't like, dodge the beam, he just moves out of the way before it fires, and then outpaces it trailing him.

This just circles back to the first issue tho, rex's beam is the most blatant FTL anti-feat they got and it's kind of an important one at that.

I mean... if it helps, he was mid-air when he got hit, I dont suppose he could just move in the air to avoid it.

 

[Chariot190]

I mean... if it helps, he was mid-air when he got hit, I dont suppose he could just move in the air to avoid it.

He legit probably could, he was doing flips and shit, using the recoil of his cannon to redirect himself, etc. The fact his flip got omega blitzed anyway is kinda bad. He at the very least could have turned his torso to avoid getting his arm chopped off too. He just didn't, beam instant tagged him.

The fact it's hitscan in game against Snake (On par with Gray Fox) also ain't a very good sign (I legit don't think anything else in game hitscan? You can manually dodge gunfire, missiles, etc).

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

It’s in the mission log for the Metal Gear REX boss fight

Metal Gear Solid Text Dump - gamefaq

thank you

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

REX uses the laser during the boss fight so it should include that, I don’t see why it shouldn’t. Not calculable though but it is worth to note in some way

agree

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

How? If you're talking about the excel leg throw, you do not use KE for that, you need to recalculate velocity every time to avoid calc stacking. What you do, is just take the fact he dusted like 2000 tons of CNT.

No, I used material failure and stress 100 GPa to find speed and then F, got the timeframe to find acceleration and got a result. You were it is, it is borderline Class T

I do not use silly KE in lifting strength i am not a calc stacker unlike others lol (Ehem NieR Automata EHEM)

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

The fact it's hitscan in game against Snake (On par with Gray Fox) also ain't a very good sign (I legit don't think anything else in game hitscan? You can manually dodge gunfire, missiles, etc).

I do not remember it being hitscan, I just think it’s really fast to the point where’s it’s guaranteed 2hit. Someone might have dodged if I’m not wrong. Or narrowly avoided it. Also, REX rarely if ever throws it from a distance. Most sequences I remember Snake was close.

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Creating my lil sandbox, bouta change the whole scaling, but for the better, pages are rusty and the downplay's crazy. All I need is that juicy FTL+ calc.
Chariot planted the seed, I don't need him to filter and foster his memes any longer, I'm spreading them just fine myself! (just kidding, thank you Chariot, you're the goat)
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