Megaten Discussion Thread II: Stephen Hawking > God

[Ionliosite]

That reminds me, I have been looking for SMT III's novel for some time. It's weird the novels for this series are so hard to find.

 

[MYHERO]

@lonliosite There is a novel about Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne or do you mean Digital Devil Story III?

 

[Ionliosite]

There's a novel about SMT III: https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Shin_Megami_Tensei_III:_Nocturne_Konto

 

[MYHERO]

Damn I really need to get my hands on it then.

 

[MYHERO]

Is the Axiom 10D or 11D?

 

[Ionliosite]

The Great Will is 10D.

 

[MYHERO]

Good to know.

 

[Ionliosite]

Talking about it, why is the profile named The Axiom when we know "The Great Will" is more accurate?

 

[MYHERO]

The Axiom sounds cooler in my book.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

It also is the name for the ship in Wall-E

 

[DMB_1]

"The Great Will" sounds more of a metaphorical nick-name used to not pronounce the Enitity's true one.

 

[The_Divine_Phoenix]

Well, whenever an SMT game has us fight that thing we'll find out for sure what its name is.

 

[Ionliosite]

"The Great Will" sounds more of a metaphorical nick-name used to not pronounce the Enitity's true one.

Even if it is a nickname (and we don't know if it is), that doesn't change the fact it is more accurate than that Axiom thing.

 

[MYHERO]

Uh if there are any, can I get scans detailing that Nanashi and Flynn have 10D hax? Like extra context that will justify it? I will like to keep it around for reference.

 

[Ionliosite]

About Flynn: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3265563

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

Hey Angels that are superior to Powers should be 2-A now since Shesha is, and the other demon commanders

 

[MYHERO]

So uh guys, can we all agree that the profiles right now isn't at their best?

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

What do you mean?

 

[MYHERO]

I got this from Yvel,

"Let's just think of our base compaints:

Copy and pasted powers and abilities section

Not updated AP explanations or even almost incorrect ones

Examples: Endgame Nocturne demons being 2-C despite mid and end boss enemies easily being 2-A

Not explaining how Belberith absorbed Bael and Baal.

The Shining One's profile could still be better Abel being above Merkabah simply for fighting the 4 Angels and Metatron (This is more of a personal gripe for me but I think I already talked about it and disproved it in the Nanashi vs Abel thread)

Something like this"

 

[Ionliosite]

Also Flynn should have Observation, he is a Godslayer after al.

 

[Eganergo]

We also need Observation for this page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Verse-specific_Powers_and_Abilities

Or is it not necessary?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

The Abel think wasn't debunked, more so put into question.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Belberith did absorb a few other demons than was mentioned. You see Bael and Baal on his sides.

 

[Ionliosite]

We also need Observation for this page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Verse-specific_Powers_and_Abilities

Or is it not necessary?

I mean, Observation is an extremely specific bunch of abilities combined. But how many people outside of Nanashi and Flynn should be users?

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

We also need Observation for this page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Verse-specific_Powers_and_Abilities

Or is it not necessary?

I mean, Observation is an extremely specific bunch of abilities combined. But how many people outside of Nanashi and Flynn should be users?

Toki, Navarre(Sorry MYHERO).Gaston,Nozomi,Asahi Hallelujah. and Isabeau. All of Nanashi's friends denied YHVH and weakened him flat out. There's no reason they shouldn't have it. And if non Messiahic humans can wield it then any human should be able to. (And probably Demi-Fiend before his TDE route since Hallelujah is a half demon and use it just fine)

 

[Ionliosite]

Then do you think making a page is alright?

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

Probably, since its easier than slapping on the Nanashi's notable attack on each profile and would be useful for the verse in general

 

[Solacis]

Should probably also mention Cognition on the page, too, since it's basically Persona's version of Observation.

 

[Dziga]

All of the Messiah's too going by what we learn about observation in 4:A.

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

I mean yeah, Flynn actually used Observation in a similar manner that Nanashi did before IVA

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

Also about the Nocturne thing, it makes no sense for endgame demons like Mada to be 2-C just becuase of one fightable enemy in game, with his large and enhanced moveset its quite obvious that Thor was alot stronger than when you fought him the first time

 

[MYHERO]

We should probably get ironing them out before we make anymore profiles. But I'm not sure where we should start.

 

[The_Divine_Phoenix]

The profiles right now arent fantastic. The Devil Survivor ones are a new level of bad, with the only really good one being the recently revised Canopus.

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

Well question, does Flynn have like his nonexistence erasure hax as a smurf?

 

[MYHERO]

@Yvel Are you asking if he has void manipulation on a 10D scale?

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

Well he's considered a smurf so does he the same has he does at his infinite 4-D key?

 

[Dziga]

Presumably all his skills gets bumped up to that level since RPG logic.

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

Cool, now all characters have nonexistence erasure and ect

 

[Ionliosite]

Why Flynn's range hasn't been fixed?

 

[MYHERO]

we lazy :/