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Megami Tensei General Discussion Thread

I binged the **** out of the game and got the Chaos ending.
Some spoilers.
So basically they returned or are returning everything (all worlds) to the primordial chaos/emptiness that everything arose from
 
When the CRT happens, will there be any clarifications for notable anti-feats on certain profiles?

I'm talking about something like this which was on Arceus' profile:

Note 2: A frequently brought up topic is the fact that Arceus was incapacitated by a simple meteor in the movie Arceus and the Jewel of Life. According to director Yuyama, Arceus was too powerful for the scenario to work in its original setting, which is that of an Omnipotent and Omniscient being, so he decided to create drama by making it incomplete with missing plates, and to make it more convincing by including a time-slip sequence to solve the problem, making this a classic case of Plot-Induced Stupidity. More explained in the link provided.
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So will there be something like this on MegaTen profiles?
 
Hastur451 said:
When the CRT happens, will there be any clarifications for notable anti-feats on certain profiles?

I'm talking about something like this which was on Arceus' profile:



So will there be something like this on MegaTen profiles?
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A lot of potential anti feats can probably either be summed up to being verse mechanics or "cognition gg"
 
Hastur451 said:
Are you able to provide some examples?

Even if it were to be summed by verse mechanics or "cognition gg" it could still be worth adding a clarification
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The easiest one (and the one people point out the most) is someone in Persona dying to a bullet
Obviously the explanation is "cognition" (I was wrong, see post beneath me)
 
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Tomfer said:
Isn't Trisha the only one who actually scales to 1-A atm? I've only played Catherine once, back when it launched, so I don't know. 🤔
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Vincent and Mutton/Dumuzid are able to climb through heaven, specifically the Empyrean, all the way up to a 5th sphere of it. There's also a stage in Babel mode called Axis Mundi, which can be climbed, and upon completing it, Trisha/Ishtar will offer the player godhood iirc. And going by statements and inferences, it seems that Mutton also completed this.
 
AnAverageUsername said:
Vincent and Mutton/Dumuzid are able to climb through heaven, specifically the Empyrean, all the way up to a 5th sphere of it. There's also a stage in Babel mode called Axis Mundi, which can be climbed, and upon completing it, Trisha/Ishtar will offer the player godhood iirc. And going by statements and inferences, it seems that Mutton also completed this.
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Cool, got it. (y)
 
Demifiend said:
He is the strongest demon gameplay wise in SMT VV therefore he is > Primal satan and matter lucifer 🥱🥱
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Thats objectively wrong even as a joke lol.

Satans stats far eclipse the demifiend lol. Its not even funny. He has almost 2x the amount on his highest stats. I believe his lowest stat point is 137 or something. Cant tell about the HP since its always as ???? Instead of a number.
 
Ovrhide said:
Thats objectively wrong even as a joke lol.

Satans stats far eclipse the demifiend lol. Its not even funny. He has almost 2x the amount on his highest stats. I believe his lowest stat point is 137 or something. Cant tell about the HP since its always as ???? Instead of a number.
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I tried
 
any direct statements of the mandala being a cycle?
Im running through my memory and nothing comes to mind, it always seems to be that Mandala rather conditions the cycles rather than being a cycle in itself
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
Give it your best guess on why the Universe is outer.
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I heard it's the embodiment of the Collective Unconscious.

Chaotic_Existentialist said:
also does anyone know if the club book for p3 is fanmade? that seems to be the case with a lot of analyzis books for megaten
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The P3 section from the clubbook was written by a Atlus staff member. There are also many concepts that are first mentioned in the clubbook that later gets established in the games.
 
Chaotic_Existentialist said:
any direct statements of the mandala being a cycle?
Im running through my memory and nothing comes to mind, it always seems to be that Mandala rather conditions the cycles rather than being a cycle in itself
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I think satan himself probably gives a hint as to what it is in 5V. Dont remember much of his dialogue other than he himself being the judge of the system as a whole.
 
Ovrhide said:
I think satan himself probably gives a hint as to what it is in 5V. Dont remember much of his dialogue other than he himself being the judge of the system as a whole.
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I dont think that really implies it being a cycle.
I think me and ultima reached a conclusion that Mandala is much less a larger cycle but rather just something that conditions reality to be transient, which in turn causes cycles like the demons showing up and death and rebirth to arise
 
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