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Megami Tensei General Discussion Thread

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Well, I'll be busy.
 
Tested on both Ryujinx and Yuzu, Yuzu had better results. XCI is fine, 30 FPS while in-game... but a few visual glitches makes a few scenes funny, like the intro, where they took the girl's entire face but her teeth and eyes were still floating Ubisoft-style. I converted into NSP (It took 20 minutes, lmao) and got better results, but still having minor visual glitches and the usual FPS drop when in cutscene.

Overhaul: It's playable, I recommend Yuzu with the NSP file.
 
CurrySenpai said:
Is it a mistranslation? Imma need a fact check, and I'm also gonna need Ultima's home address /j
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スティーヴン
それはいつか人間が理を超える可能性を秘めていると感じたからだ
Stephen:
That's because I felt that one day man has the potential to transcend reason
The Kanji SMT4A uses to denote TGR is 大いなる理.
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すべての宇宙を内包せし超越の神・・・
≪大いなる理≫
The transcendent God who encompasses the entire universe... <<The Great Reason>>


The way this mistranslation even happened(I assume) is because the Kanji used is Ri or Li or "理", which denotes logic, arrangement, reason. Another use is neo-confucianism where Li denotes principles of the universe, which stephen earlier said he had to bend, so it likely js talks about the cycle
 
Chaotic_Existentialist said:
MC of imagine fights with demifiend who is obviously the strongest mc
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this is true but Imagine protagonist isn't even a Messiah, which is really funny to me because they're one of the more stronger protags (via story feats and virtue of MMO scaling)
 
Primal Satan >>> Matter lucifer confirmed pretty much. So lucifer didnt transcend that high enough after obtaining a single heads knowledge. Nahobino now scales to primal satan tho, so he is around end game 4A main character level.
 
Ovrhide said:
Primal Satan >>> Matter lucifer confirmed pretty much. So lucifer didnt transcend that high enough after obtaining a single heads knowledge. Nahobino now scales to primal satan tho, so he is around end game 4A main character level.
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Matter Lucifer more like Fraudulent Lucifer
 
im 7 hours in and just got to the angels lmfao. seen some new story content but nothing meaty yet aside from qadistu introduction
 
Chaotic_Existentialist said:
Im curious what feats do they have
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in terms of story they kill Seth two times (once in the og story line and again in the expansion)
Directly compared to Kazuya/SMT 1 protagonist in strength
Has access to Demon Digitization, an SMT imagine unique mechanic where you can take the aspects of a demon such as their magics and attributes and put it on yourself to make you stronger, like a dragon install.
Wields probably the largest range of weapons.
There’s an entire side quest dedicated to Stephen being trapped in a COMP unit, with you the player being the only one who can save him.
Lots of weapons which are stated to have tons of effects that would give them resistances and powers
Can tame some demons like Metatron
Probably the strongest human you can get without being a messiah as the chaos ending has Lucifer directly call out the imagine protagonist as someone who lacks will and understanding but still managed to shape the world, calling what they are doing pure destruction itself. Even goes as far as to say they are a False Messiah and the Order of Messiah have some dialogue where they go “sometimes gods send messiah’s in times of need and your accolades are similar to one.” But then says it couldn’t possibly be you.

There’s some other more speculative stuff like two characters in the game being the children of Adam and Eve, you fight Demi Fiend, main issue is idk where this game goes in the timeline but it’s part of the SMT 1/2 one.
 
CurrySenpai said:
in terms of story they kill Seth two times (once in the og story line and again in the expansion)
Directly compared to Kazuya/SMT 1 protagonist in strength
Has access to Demon Digitization, an SMT imagine unique mechanic where you can take the aspects of a demon such as their magics and attributes and put it on yourself to make you stronger, like a dragon install.
Wields probably the largest range of weapons.
There’s an entire side quest dedicated to Stephen being trapped in a COMP unit, with you the player being the only one who can save him.
Lots of weapons which are stated to have tons of effects that would give them resistances and powers
Can tame some demons like Metatron
Probably the strongest human you can get without being a messiah as the chaos ending has Lucifer directly call out the imagine protagonist as someone who lacks will and understanding but still managed to shape the world, calling what they are doing pure destruction itself. Even goes as far as to say they are a False Messiah and the Order of Messiah have some dialogue where they go “sometimes gods send messiah’s in times of need and your accolades are similar to one.” But then says it couldn’t possibly be you.

There’s some other more speculative stuff like two characters in the game being the children of Adam and Eve, you fight Demi Fiend, main issue is idk where this game goes in the timeline but it’s part of the SMT 1/2 one.
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those dont seem,... that impressive. I mean hax would make sense if the verse wasnt outerversal
 
Just came back after 10 hours of gaming Vengeance, and so far, it's devious good. I'm so happy that they're giving the human characters more time to shine. I hope they especially give my boy Atsuta more screentime, I really like him.
 
Chaotic_Existentialist said:
those dont seem,... that impressive. I mean hax would make sense if the verse wasnt outerversal
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I mean yeah thye're not impressive, but I like that they're a "False Messiah" aka just a normal ass human who happens to change the world around them drastically
 
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