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Changed it out for fire (and the skill for greater one) since I had the greater pleroma for that
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Megami Tensei General Discussion Thread
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From what I can tell, Nahobino rises one layer because of being able to face Primal Satan, now closer to the Apocalypse Endgame cast
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I binged the **** out of the game and got the Chaos ending.
Some spoilers.
Some spoilers.
So basically they returned or are returning everything (all worlds) to the primordial chaos/emptiness that everything arose from
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A lot of potential anti feats can probably either be summed up to being verse mechanics or "cognition gg"
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Are you able to provide some examples?
Even if it were to be summed by verse mechanics or "cognition gg" it could still be worth adding a clarification
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The easiest one (and the one people point out the most) is someone in Persona dying to a bullet
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No, it isn’t. He just didn’t have his Persona out.
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This sounds so ludicrous. Is everything 1-A??
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Hey, does anyone know where the Catherine characters scale to, and if they have Low 1-C or 1-A ratings?
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Isn't Trisha the only one who actually scales to 1-A atm? I've only played Catherine once, back when it launched, so I don't know.
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Vincent and Mutton/Dumuzid are able to climb through heaven, specifically the Empyrean, all the way up to a 5th sphere of it. There's also a stage in Babel mode called Axis Mundi, which can be climbed, and upon completing it, Trisha/Ishtar will offer the player godhood iirc. And going by statements and inferences, it seems that Mutton also completed this.Isn't Trisha the only one who actually scales to 1-A atm? I've only played Catherine once, back when it launched, so I don't know.
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Cool, got it.
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Is Demi-Fiend gonna scale to Matter Lucifer or would that not make sense narratively considering he was incapable of beating YHVH?
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He may get a possibly.
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Is there a statement that says the demi-fiend is incapable of beating YHVH?
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Thats objectively wrong even as a joke lol.He is the strongest demon gameplay wise in SMT VV therefore he is > Primal satan and matter lucifer
Satans stats far eclipse the demifiend lol. Its not even funny. He has almost 2x the amount on his highest stats. I believe his lowest stat point is 137 or something. Cant tell about the HP since its always as ???? Instead of a number.
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Call me a hater but I think a possibly is being too generous, lmao.
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I tried
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We have profiles for a reason, outdated as they may be.
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No, Philemon and nyarlathotep outscales. Imo the real question is who's stronger between true YHVH/the great will and nyx
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All Nahobeeho victims.
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Objective truth
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Both are outerversal lol, it doesn't even say anything about why the Universe Arcana is outerversal either.
Will the CRT add more detail to this type of stuff?
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Give it your best guess on why the Universe is outer.
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outer space
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any direct statements of the mandala being a cycle?
Im running through my memory and nothing comes to mind, it always seems to be that Mandala rather conditions the cycles rather than being a cycle in itself
Im running through my memory and nothing comes to mind, it always seems to be that Mandala rather conditions the cycles rather than being a cycle in itself
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also does anyone know if the club book for p3 is fanmade? that seems to be the case with a lot of analyzis books for megaten
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I heard it's the embodiment of the Collective Unconscious.
The P3 section from the clubbook was written by a Atlus staff member. There are also many concepts that are first mentioned in the clubbook that later gets established in the games.
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Then there you go, that’s why.
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I think satan himself probably gives a hint as to what it is in 5V. Dont remember much of his dialogue other than he himself being the judge of the system as a whole.
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I dont think that really implies it being a cycle.
I think me and ultima reached a conclusion that Mandala is much less a larger cycle but rather just something that conditions reality to be transient, which in turn causes cycles like the demons showing up and death and rebirth to arise
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