Fraymakers General Discussion Thread

[Lilybitdun]

Apparently the other thread was for mods, so this is for the general vanilla game

 

[Lilybitdun]

Speed calcs really should be done

Getting the speed of Kragg's rock tower compared to bullets probably would upgrade the feat due to KE

Side note: Fishbunjin's fully charged down special is directly called a nuke in a official short, alongside it visually making a mini mushroom cloud explosion

Don't think it would upgrade anything since it's pretty small but I think it prob deserves a calc

 

[O0DSF0o]

Speed calcs really should be done

True, I do think I have had clives down pretty well tho so that’s cool

Getting the speed of Kragg's rock tower compared to bullets probably would upgrade the feat due to KE

true again

Side note: Fishbunjin's fully charged down special is directly called a nuke in a official short, alongside it visually making a mini mushroom cloud explosion

right so
1. This only scales to this move, no character can reasonably survive the nuke (like at all), it’s a AP thing ONLY
2. Would it tho? Like it’s pretty small I don’t think it would get above 9-A+

 

[O0DSF0o]

On the main Kragg calc as well, I’m trying to get a LS upgrade from the weight of Kraggs big ass rock

 

[Lilybitdun]

2. Would it tho? Like it’s pretty small I don’t think it would get above 9-A+

Don't think it would upgrade anything since it's pretty small but I think it prob deserves a calc

already said that lol

I just think more supporting calcs would be good for the verse

On the main Kragg calc as well, I’m trying to get a LS upgrade from the weight of Kraggs big ass rock

I'm not sure how characters would scale to the weight of the rock tower without an UES
he doesn't directly lift it. he just summons it

 

[O0DSF0o]

New calc is up using the method about comparing kraggs rock to gunman clives bullets alongside the actual calc on the bullet dodging

 

[Lilybitdun]

New calc is up using the method about comparing kraggs rock to gunman clives bullets alongside the actual calc on the bullet dodging

How did you get mountain level

Rock density is meant to be 2700 kg/m3
The volume is also wrong, 36839300cm3 = 36.8393m3

Also I believe it should use 1/4 instead of 0.5 since it's seems like it counts for a non-uniform mass

the highest end would be
Rock Volume: 36.8393m3
Mass: 36.8393*2700= 99466.11kg
KE: (1/4)*(99466.11)*(1146.8852459^2)= 3.27080816937e10 joules / 7.817419142853729 tons (Large Building level+)

your math was off by several magnitudes

when using a projectile that has a range of speed you should also include the mathematical average for the projectile
(270+350)/2= 310 m/s
(380+440)/2= 410 m/s

there's also probably better moves to compare to clive's bullets but watcher's dodge seems fine

 

[O0DSF0o]

How did you get mountain level

updated

 

[Lilybitdun]

updated

You included two speed averages but there's only one speed value given

(159/61)*380 = 990.491803279 m/s
Does this new speed come from 310 m/s or 410 m/s?

Also you didn't update the KE with that new speed
High-end mass: (1/4)*(99466.11)*(990.491803279^2)= 2.4395903908e10 joules / 5.83076 tons (Large Building level)

Low-end mass: (1/4)*(95782.18)*(990.491803279^2)= 2.34923519114e10 joules / 5.6148 tons (Large Building level)

 

[O0DSF0o]

You included two speed averages but there's only one speed value given

(159/61)*380 = 990.491803279 m/s
Does this new speed come from 310 m/s or 410 m/s?

I'm incredibly confused, didn't you say that you should of the averages instead? Also I did give a speed with the averages in the second bracket

 

[Lilybitdun]

I'm incredibly confused, didn't you say that you should of the averages instead? Also I did give a speed with the averages in the second bracket

The number that gets ^2 is the speed part of the kinetic energy formula

So your new speeds
(159/61)*410 = 1068.68852459 m/s
(159/61)*310 = 808.032786885 m/s

they need to be put into the KE

High-end: (1/4)*(99466.11)*(1068.68852459^2)= 2.83999407682e10 joules / 6.78774 tons (Large Building level+)
Low-end: (1/4)*(95782.18)*(808.032786885^2)= 1.56344530379e10 joules / 3.7367239 tons (Large Building level)

 

[O0DSF0o]

The number that gets ^2 is the speed part of the kinetic energy formula

So your new speeds
(159/61)*410 = 1068.68852459 m/s
(159/61)*310 = 808.032786885 m/s

they need to be put into the KE

High-end: (1/4)*(99466.11)*(1068.68852459^2)= 2.83999407682e10 joules / 6.78774 tons (Large Building level+)
Low-end: (1/4)*(95782.18)*(808.032786885^2)= 1.56344530379e10 joules / 3.7367239 tons (Large Building level)

updated

 

[Lilybitdun]

alright looks good now

 

[O0DSF0o]

alright looks good now

submitted, hip hip hooray

 

[Lilybitdun]

I got fraymakers now, expect some blogs if I can figure out why steam recording isn't working

 

[Lilybitdun]

 

[O0DSF0o]

characters cool. we still need a hat kid and cv profile but we should probably hold off on that unti the new kragg calc is approved

 

[Lilybitdun]

there's a third firearm of a shotgun now, even more evidence the cast are bullet timers