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Mega hax addition for devil may cry. Now that we have a decent translation of before the nightmare, let's add what I had planned since 84.

nero must have extrasensory perception through the devil brigger that reacts to the demonic power of his https://ibb.co/yBBmN0W

Users with good knowledge of Yamato (dante, vergil, sparda and partially balrog will see why from the latter) should have universal range since it can create portals from the human world to the demonic world by the following context of chapter 1 and 2 of dante.

" Matier asks how he could escape from hell and he says that a hole was opened unexpectedly and that it went through it. Sometimes, the holes that connect with the world of demons will suddenly appear. These holes seem to be the reason why Dumary Island requires guardians to protect it. It seems that "small port cities" are more likely to see holes, which is used to explain why Dumary Island and Fortuna have demons appearing. The novel states that when demons enter the human world, they only project their consciousness into another physical entity. If a demon wants to enter with his physical body, the hole has to be massive. Dante feels that it was not a coincidence that there was a hole large enough for it to pass. When he went to Fortuna and saw the Gate of Hell, he suddenly understood that perhaps his escape from hell was related to Yamato. Dante describes Yamato as a memory of his father who has the ability to cut the boundary between the human world and the world of demons."

"The couple makes their way to Balrog, and Balrog simply looks at them. Dante asks if he's shy and Balrog responds with" So you finally came. "Dante asks if he was waiting for them to appear, and Balrog says he believed that if he waited here, eventually a strong person would come to him. Balrog takes a step toward them that is enough to shake the ground. During this conversation, Dante experiences a familiar feeling nearby. Balrog says that after losing his partner Argosax, he got bored. But now, he has a new power. Dante sees something shining in his fist and recognizes it: it is a fragment of Yamato. It seems that when parts of Yamato dispersed, one part remained in hell. It seems that Balrog used a fragment of Yamato to enter the human world. Dante deduces that Balrog had been using the fragment to travel to the human world. Dante was able to escape from hell using one of these holes that Balrog left, believing that his escape was a coincidence. Dante says "Yamato ..." out loud. Yamato was once used to seal demons, now he is helping the demons escape him. The Order of the Sword collected fragments of Yamato to feed his ambitions, and this is how the Fortuna incident occurred. In response, Dante grabs Rebellion and prepares for battle. Balrog lets out a massive scream, but Dante is not discouraged. He tells Lucia that this is his job and jumps to Balrog, attacking him in his fist. " https://ibb.co/7Yz63Qp https://ibb.co/mCqB4pP https://ibb.co/PQS7qr3 https://ibb.co/3BSnHk0 https://ibb.co/pPHzk3H https://ibb.co/WBBGJZh https://ibb.co/X3gDVHk https://ibb.co/Kh09Lg0 In addition to that the Yamato can bypass the seal of Sparda which mundus does not so possible Power Nullification

Pure demons must have Borrowed Power when they become weapons of the devil (found in Lucia's chapter 1) or contracts (as Griffon shows us when serving V). A demon will become a weapon of overwhelming power if it has been defeated and becomes submissive, or a demon will become a weapon if there is a strong emotional bond present. Although, of course, you have to put things like Sparda, you can lend his power through his sword, since it gave Arkham some power. And it is clear that in the true form he gave his power to Dante, although it is necessary to put a note that says something like only those with a blood connection with Sparda can claim all his power or something. https://ibb.co/7S965K7

Mundus should have analysis information and a possible limited clairvoyance and according to the trish chapter. And a possible Power Nullification to urizen with that wave of power.

"Trish reflects on being a creation of Mundus in the image of Sparda's wife. Mundus sent his army to kill Sparda's wife and children. While they killed Eva, Dante and Vergil escaped. This disturbed Mundus, as naturally they would grow up and want revenge. Mundus found Vergil first, since Vergil did not assume a false identity as Dante did. However, Vergil had inherited Yamato from an early age and was able to defeat the minions that Mundus sent to kill him. Ten years after Eva's death, Mundus found Dante assuming the identity of Tony Redgrave. Mundus sent demons to Tony and he treated them easily, confirming that it was Dante. Mundus decided to create a demon for revenge. Mundus created black knights using battle data from Sparda, Dante and Vergil. These knights were dressed in strong black armor made by Machiavelli, a craftsman from hell. Mundus experimented with prototypes of black knights, but their imperfect nature and the power limit of artificial demons meant that they were not enough to kill Dante and Vergil. It was around this time that Dante and Vergil started fighting. While traveling the world, Vergil learned about the Sparda seal and wanted that power for himself. Dante had a strong disdain for Vergil's desire for power. When Mundus was told about the fight, he decided to sit down and observe: the brothers' fights would only benefit him. The defeated and injured state of Vergil was in fact a benefit to Mundus. As Mundus had not yet been completely revived, he felt that Vergil in perfect condition could have defeated him. However, Mundus was able to beat Vergil in his weakened state. Mundus captured Vergil and used him in his black knight experiments. This resulted in a gentleman so powerful that he was incomparable with others. Mundus named this gentleman Nelo Angelo, but Mundus still didn't have perfect control over this gentleman. Mundus was able to earn Vergil's obedience by returning his amulet, a symbol of the power he wanted so much. Mundus had the perfect revenge demon, but he wanted to bring Dante to the world of demons instead of sending Nelo Angelo to the human world. For this purpose, he created Trish. She was deliberately created in the image of her mother to take advantage of Dante's strong affection for her mother and take him to Mallet Island. While thinking about the first time he met Dante, Trish wakes up in the demon tree. While breathing heavily, Lady asks if she has just woken up. Trish apologizes for his carelessness and stands up. Lady asks if she can still fight and Trish replies with "Just about." Despite thinking that this would be an easy job, they are fighting in their fight with Urizen. Urizen barely recognizes them and remains seated on what appears to be a throne. Trish and Lady begin to attack Urizen, but it is useless: a strange object floating next to Urizen is blocking the attacks. Trish begins to develop strategies to deal a blow with the Sparda sword, but before he can, Urizen unleashes a wave that sends the ladies back. Trish concentrates on his right arm and summons Artemis, Dante's former Devil Arm and a Machiavelli creation. Trish disperses multiple shots in the air, hoping that the multidirectional attack will catch Urizen. However, Urizen summons a wave to fly them. Trish says out loud: "This is impossible ... such power." Trish thinks about how he has heard many rumors about demons. Even if you have never seen or fought a demon, you have usually heard of them. However, when it comes to Urizen, she has never heard anything about him. Trish says "Dante ..." out loud and passes out while contemplating Urizen's identity. https://ibb.co/YbWtyD0 https://ibb.co/4gsBkLx https://ibb.co/68cfRFm https://ibb.co/LzRYnxH https://ibb.co/34tpXRr https://ibb.co/FKGrCt https://ibb.co/mNTsGMp https://ibb.co/2ypYydx https://ibb.co/2dH8nmT https://ibb.co/tpd94Wf https://ibb.co/y0NhhcT https://ibb.co/7tQPbHq https://ibb.co/WpZdcKz https://ibb.co/q7tr5dj

In chapter 2 of V describes the abilities of his summons as a dream this could be involved by the fact that I call the visions within nightmare as a dream.

V describes Shadow and Griffon's abilities as" like a dream. "He explains that while things may suffer because of their dreams, their dreams cannot kill them. Similarly, beasts can inflict pain, but cannot kill. It is V's duty to kill the demons that have been affected by the dream. V kills the demons while calling them garbage. https://ibb.co/z5MxRjv https://ibb.co/9cVB3vD https://ibb.co/L0Z8zZ0 https://ibb.co/dGrcvw8 https://ibb.co/XYH9Yfv

V describes Nightmare's visions as a dream: https://ibb.co/HHdyc49 https://ibb.co/NZdfnbt https://ibb.co/2hdq0ZH

I don't know if this changes the biological manipulation and memory that has vergil with yamato for a subjective reality that you think?

Well, these are skills found in vision of v and other media.

Urizen should have the skills provided by Yamato since he has it in his arcenal.

Urizen also seems to be able to create life in this scan. https://ibb.co/qmbdzt5 https://ibb.co/w0k58fd

Urizen should have a merger since he merged Artemis with a demon and possibly also fusion and I believe Gilgamesh. https://ibb.co/gR79zHG https://ibb.co/vjNbS3p

Trish could briefly hold the edge of force so it should have biological resistance and I don't know if this is speculation but technically the Sparda form is its true state that would scale its false form so those who can use it without turning it into a show should having biological resistance among them to santus, nero and sparda (which surprises me that it has no resistance to biological manipulation).

Nightmare should have inorganic physiology, manipulation of his body, absorption power, application of statistics and aura, trasformation , BFR, manipulation of extreme cold, passive manipulation of pocket dimension or manipulation of fear and passive mental manipulation. https://ibb.co/m9bjBmN https://ibb.co/pKvqhhD https://ibb.co/wRLKw4G https://ibb.co/Y2skPKf https://ibb.co/CWn9N0X https://ibb.co/BZb78L2 https://ibb.co/fSvhp53

Mundus should have resistance to spatial manipulation basically faced Vergil and broke Yamato, also fought against Sparda and was at war with Argosax which has passive space-time manipulation. https://ibb.co/2cTfLr6 https://m.imgur.com/cGKE4Y7 https://m.imgur.com/gallery/fUycPtc

and also chain manipulation as shown here: https://ibb.co/LZbCvz Unholy manipulation I don't know why you don't have it if it appears as a user on the page of that power

In addition to having spatial manipulation since it moves the Malet Island from its position and fusion since it fuses the human and demonic world. https://s3.mkklcdnv3.com/************/d1/devil_may_cry/vol1_chapter_1/6.jpg

Nero creation of weapons creates a kind of spectral Yamato. https://ibb.co/gJKZt4x Nero can control his arm retract it so he can put on his devil breaker's so that limited body control for him would not be bad.

Argosax should have fusion to unite the demonic and human world in one and possibly absorption since when killing begins to talk about the danger of Argosax and that the last hope is mentioned that the demonic world will consume the human world. https://m.imgur.com/cGKE4Y7 https://m.imgur.com/VLeQLu3

It should be mentioned that what Argosax can do with demonic energy can be void mundus.

The demos must have a possible resistance to the manipulation of destiny, since they resist the simulation process of beast heads that works through the deformation of reality that manipulates destiny.

Sparda technically does not have devil trigger but it changes the way a human is the same as with guys like the Martian detective.

Sparda should have an improvement in rank since he did separate the human and demonic world? that would give him universal rank?

Arius should lose resistance to the manipulation of the soul and corruption since in the end being turned into a demon.

Everyone remembers a void mundus, the mundus that embodies a void. https://m.imgur.com/a/mBxI08U. This void is known as the nexus of the demonic power of its universe. https://m.imgur.com/Tj7n4Vo Whose power I create the universe (which should be created by the users of demonic energy). https://ibb.co/bgypnTx https://i1.***********.net/devil-may-cry-3/1/devil-may-cry-3-1644919.jpg

And that energy deforms time and space creating paradoxes. https://m.imgur.com/gctO4fG https://prnt.sc/nw4lbl https://m.imgur.com/cGKE4Y7

So the empty world embodies the energy of the demonic world and, therefore, the same dimension.

While it is empty, the mundus must have an astract type 1 existence and be of a larger dimension due to the above.

Dante could have Psychometrics since almost at the end Dante easily discovers who is urizen. Dante reflects on how difficult it is to know who is by the muted voice, but there is only one person who could deflect his blows. Dante asks the devil if it is harder than last time. In response, the demon lets out a slight laugh. https://ibb.co/f9R7wXL

Urizen should have a possible manipulation of the soul or astral project because he controls the Qliphoth who can create metaphysical representations with which he had to fight in mission 14. https://ibb.co/RD9bpxZ https://ibb.co/1TbLCMj https://ibb.co/ts86qzy

Vergil and Sparda should scale the creation of uros force bonnets since this should be from Yamato.

Mundus should have denial durability and mater limit handles since he can attack with particle beam https://ibb.co/Ct9MVxw

and void mundus should be large (unknown it was said to be the nexus of demonic energy but size is unknown)

The Beastheads should have magic (https://ibb.co/4tBwffD) manipulation of the light since it threw a ray of light at Dante (https://ibb.co/LpnSZzq) copy of techniques had the same sparda skills in the use of the sword and I create a replica of the Sparda (https://ibb.co/x13LFcq https://ibb.co/C1vcchL) reactive power (equaled and possibly surpassed dante in a short time (https: // ibb.co/WBHbZN5) also Empathic Manipulation, darkness and technology (https://ibb.co/XVzB4gP) the Beastheads should have resistance to the nullification of power since they can enter into the gel that annulled the magic of dante (https: / /ibb.co/B6PHcCr https://ibb.co/5xFWGRf) the beastheads erased Chen's concept of time and space that apart from giving immunity to the manipulation of time and space would also be conceptual manipulation (https: // ibb. co / YyCkQwC) the beastheads must have fire manipulation since they created a "cold flame" (https://ibb.co/vD31Tfr) the Beasthe ads should have manipulation of lives as it can create a magical earthquake (https://ibb.co/c3Svjkj)

Dante should possibly have telepathy since I somehow listen to Chen's thoughts (https://ibb.co/82x8C8F) Dante should possibly have reality warping since The power that now imbued him I felt neither good nor evil. It was simply whoever handled it could reshape reality to its own design, For better or worse. (https://ibb.co/Pg2KYS0) and after being re-empowered by the Beastheads should have resistance to null power. Dante was able to create a wind tornado in his fight against trish (https://ibb.co/Z2cfffB)

Force application for alastor carriers (https://ibb.co/YZTfKyz)

Void mundus should have weapons creation and possibly manipulation of death since arojo varies deaths and different weapons to dante (https://ibb.co/4RKSpdF) should also have unlimited or almost unlimited durability since the more demons are done to the nexus of the demonic world their forces are replenished the same would go to argosax. (https://ibb.co/YkMhshC) sleep manipulation and bfr (https://m.imgur.com/cuU8tVz https://m.imgur.com/a/LRn8Lar)

We should create a one key for altenative trish and profile for beryl, balrog and Qliphoth.
 
Sorry mate but this thread is too big for me, so Imma wait until Dante, Die, Reby, Kep, Paradox or matt give their opinio

Also, what do you mean here: "Sparda should have an improvement in rank since he did not separate the human and demonic world that would not give him universal rank."
 
Tony di bugalu said:
Sorry mate but this thread is too big for me, so Imma wait until Dante, Die, Reby, Kep, Paradox or matt give their opinio

Also, what do you mean here: "Sparda should have an improvement in rank since he did not separate the human and demonic world that would not give him universal rank."
I think you misinterpreted it (although I better fix it) I was referring to how Sparda divided the human and demonic world and should not have universal rank since it appears on its page from several meters to several kilometers
 
Every Demon created via magic by someone without any special circumstance, by default the creator must have whatever abilities those created demons initially have... so look at the list of lesser demons with possibly unique abilities and slap em on its creator.

Recently, I just found out more about the Plasma Demon from DMC1. It's a Lesser Demon, shoots lazers, has resistance to electricity atacks and totally immune to nightmare b (weapon), resitant to Alastor, lightning fast, doppelganger, limited power mimicry, creates a thunderstormm (intro) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BncxkzfYrPk (4:24 mins) https://devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/Plasma
 
You said "Urizen should have a possible manipulation of the soul or astral project..." I was under the impression that the chicken soccerer demon was responsible for that. She created the evil pocket dimension and manifest those demons the opponent have already fought.
 
I'mma go in order.

Nero ESP:Yes

Knowledgable Yamato users were supposed to have Cross-dimesional (aka Cross-universal) range with portals for a long time now so yes, I agree.

Borrowed Power is a concept from a series called The God of Highschool and it's unique to that series and demons/devil arms would not be qualified to be considered Borrowed power so I disagree on this one.

Mundus was sending demons all over the world to find and kill Dante and Vergil, I can see possibly limited clairvoyance but even then it's more likely that demons could have found Dante and Vergil for him rather than him being clairvoyant.Neutral for now.He should have information analysis and power bestowel and preparation.I disagree with limited power null for Urizen, his barrier only destroyed or deflected attacks not prevent them from happening.

I don't know what to make about the dream stuff or the subjective reality for V but V's summons should have inorganic physiology type 2.

I agree with Urizen haven Yamato's abilities

I think that was Urizen summoning the demon rather than creating it but he should have Summoning if he doesn't already.

Urizen didn't merge Artemis with Lady, Artemis itself can merge with humans and turn them into a demonic living weapon (this is explained in the CD Drama, you can read a summary on reddit with a simple google search if you like).I disagree.

I agree with the biological manipulation resistance stuff

I agree with the Nightmare stuff.

I agree with spatial manipulation resistance for Mundus but neutral on space-time manipulation resistance

I agree with chain manipulation that scene with Nightmare should be limited powernull as well for putting a restrain on Nightmares power.Unholy manipulation should be given to all demons and part demons.

I agree with spatial manipulation

I agree with weapon creation for Nero but not limited body control, his cyborgization covers that.

Already on Argosax's profile as reality warping

Already on Void Mundus' profile

The Beasthead's Fate manipulation isn't apart of the assimilation process so demon's don't resist it.

I agree that Sparda's sealing should be universal but that's only for Sealing.

Arius' soul and corruption resistance is when he's possed by Argosax and becomes a demon so he has it, it's not for human Arius.

We don't have confirmation that the same darkness Void Mundus embodied is the same darkness that created the universe and it wouldn't make sense because Mundus was born after the universe was created and in the demon world.I disagree with abstract type 1.

Psychometrics for Dante. That would be Extrasensory Perception I believe and yes ,if he doesn't have it, he should.

Malphas created those metaphysical respresentations, not Urizen.

"Vergil and Sparda should scale the creation of uros force bonnets since this should be from Yamato." I don't understand what you meant here.

Matter manipulation and durability negation for Mundus particle beams. I agree

I agree with everything here except Empathetic manipulation and technology manipulation, that was flavor text saying Chen broke the lights and created a powerful aura (he should get Heat manipulation for dropping the temperature).Concept manipulation stuff, The beasteads didn't erased Chen's concept of time and space, it gave him knowledge about the past and future simultaneously which Chen couldn't comprehend.The Beastheads already have Aura for it's shaking of the building feat.

Disagree with telepathy, that's just ESP and reality warping for Dante.Dante doesn't have the Beastheads anymore so he doesn't gain it's powers.Dante already has air manipulation.

I agree with weapon creation, sleep manipulaion and and bfr for Void Mundus. "and possibly manipulation of death since arojo varies deaths" I don't understand what that means. I disagree with unlimited durability for demons and Dante, being powered by the demon world's energy doesn't mean they gain unlimited durability.

Alternate Trish key isn't really needed since they are basically the same with the exception of her being able to create clones. Beryl, balrog and qliphoth profiles would be fine.
 
the thing about sparda and vergil was Forcefield Creation only that it is the self-correcting one that changes the words mostly to my language of origin (Latin Spanish) or throws words that to me are unknown.

about void mundus throwing all kinds of death to dante I think it was metaphorical referring to the weapons he threw but I wanted to put it.
 
When Vergil uses DT in 3, he also makes a Blue Forcefield, I don't believe that his profile doesn't have that

I'll take a look at the OP, good job Oliver o/
 
FRA, I support Dienomite22.

It is possible that Forcefield Creation comes from Yamato since Urizen uses Yamato as a shield in his first battles.

Dante should explosion manipulation with Lucifer but is not in his profile. I don't know if I should have it in DMC5 since one of Dante's teasing is throwing a rose that explodes on contact with enemies.
 
Ahhhh, a long post, but I never get tired of debating about DMC hax, dunno why tho

nero must have extrasensory perception through the devil brigger that reacts to the demonic power of his

Agree

Users with good knowledge of Yamato (dante, vergil, sparda and partially balrog will see why from the latter) should have universal range since it can create portals from the human world to the demonic world by the following context of chapter 1 and 2 of dante.

Agree

In addition to that the Yamato can bypass the seal of Sparda which mundus does not so possible Power Nullification

Sparda's seal doesn't last forever, Mundus awakened even after being sealed by him, also he's cutting through the seal, not nullyfing it, I believe this might be some kind of Resistance to Sealing since apparently Yamato can overpower this

Pure demons must have Borrowed Power

Power Bestowal for becoming a Devil Arm, right ? Seems fine, doesn't work for battles, but it's ok

Mundus should have analysis information and a possible limited clairvoyance and according to the trish chapter. And a possible Power Nullification to urizen with that wave of power.

Analysis Information and Preparation seems fine

Urizen should have the skills provided by Yamato since he has it in his arcenal.

Agree

Urizen should have a merger since he merged Artemis with a demon and possibly also fusion and I believe Gilgamesh.

As Dienomite said, Artemis itself can merge with humans and turn them into a demonic living weapon

Trish could briefly hold the edge of force so it should have biological resistance and I don't know if this is speculation but technically the Sparda form is its true state that would scale its false form so those who can use it without turning it into a show should having biological resistance among them to santus, nero and sparda (which surprises me that it has no resistance to biological manipulation).

Agree

Nightmare should have inorganic physiology, manipulation of his body, absorption power, application of statistics and aura, trasformation , BFR, manipulation of extreme cold, passive manipulation of pocket dimension or manipulation of fear and passive mental manipulation.

Agree

Mundus should have resistance to spatial manipulation basically faced Vergil and broke Yamato, also fought against Sparda and was at war with Argosax which has passive space-time manipulation.

Argosax only have passive space-time because he had control of the Demon World energy, which we don't know if he had in that war

However, fighting against Vergil and Sparda should work for "likely Resistance to Spatial Manipulation"

In addition to having spatial manipulation since it moves the Malet Island from its position and fusion since it fuses the human and demonic world.

Fusion is Reality Warping in this case and moving Mallet land is Teleportation

Nero creation of weapons creates a kind of spectral Yamato.

Agree

Argosax should have fusion to unite the demonic and human world in one and possibly absorption since when killing begins to talk about the danger of Argosax and that the last hope is mentioned that the demonic world will consume the human world.

Same case, it's Reality Warping

The demos must have a possible resistance to the manipulation of destiny, since they resist the simulation process of beast heads that works through the deformation of reality that manipulates destiny.

They only resist the assimilation process, which doesn't envolve Fate Manip

Arius should lose resistance to the manipulation of the soul and corruption since in the end being turned into a demon.

Being resistant doesn't mean being immune, Argosax just bypassed his resistance

Dante could have Psychometrics since almost at the end Dante easily discovers who is urizen.

Agree

Mundus should have denial durability and mater limit handles since he can attack with particle beam

Agree

Dante should possibly have telepathy since I somehow listen to Chen's thoughts

Agree

We should create a one key for altenative trish and profile for beryl, balrog and Qliphoth.

We don't have any image of Balrog and Beryl that can be used for profiles. Qliphoth should be fine

Dienomite have more knowledge than me about the second novel, so I agree with him about Void Mundus and Beastheads. Dante says many times to be able to feel the presence of Urizen, he should get extrasensory perception asap
 
Well, Dante about beryl I already have a cut image (something more or less decent) but balrog I have seen personages page without images here on the wiki (example Neverwere of the scp foundation).
 
@Dante Demon Killah

yes.

Also, Authorofall brought up something good earlier. Plasma creates a thunderstorm upon spawning, a thunderous one that you can hear throughout the level and as you fight more Plasma.
 
I want to know what you think about this, since I'm confused.

In one of the Wikipedia lines (Japan) he mentions that if Dante tries to use Holy Water or Untouchable, a message appears that says it will not work against the emperor demon.

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But it seems that it only happens in the first phase of the battle.
 
For holy water it would be resistance to holy manipulation and for untouchable I don't know.Maybe limited powernull or resistance negation?
 
I agree with Dienomite22 in the case of the vendita water and in the case of the untouchable because I am going to refuse denial and I forgot to put the bfr of the beastheads I should not be multiversal low and mundus should not have moral manipulation when erasing the nightmare free will.
 
Galens said:
I want to know what you think about this, since I'm confused.
In one of the Wikipedia lines (Japan) he mentions that if Dante tries to use Holy Water or Untouchable, a message appears that says it will not work against the emperor demon.

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But it seems that it only happens in the first phase of the battle.
https://blog.goo.ne.jp/touffu/e/cf42601d0b959dce2cc3265700d7e5d6 DMC1 japanese game manual (scroll down)
 
They are absolutely right, in the case of Holy Water it will definitely be resistance to sacred manipulation and in the case of Untouchable by the description given in this wiki, it falls better in limited powernull.
 
Yeah, I think we can only apply Resistance to Holy Manip, Untouchable seems...eh

We also need to summarize things here
 
http://www.capcom.co.jp/devil4/main.html Official DMC4 japanese website. Can't copy and paste stuff to translate descriptions on things because of how it's made which sucks but it's a cool site and has good renders.
 
Dante Demon Killah said:
But it only happens in the first phase ?
That's what I think (I'm not sure), but I have nothing to prove that it only happens in the first phase of the battle because I never used those objects when I played DMC in the past, and I have no way to verify why the game doesn't Lets you select the mission you want to play (and I can't play everything again because I don't have much time)
 
That's why I mentioned it, since I wanted to ask if anyone knew anything about this and if they could confirm if it only happens in the first phase of the battle.
 
I see, I think it doesn't work in the battle at all, because when I was a noob, I remember that I had some itens to battle Mundus but nothing was working and then "eh, this is gonna suck"

I can't even use Alastor in that fight, which makes sense
 
Holy...

I just decided to take a look at this thread. It didn't seem like there were many posts.

I've been here reading for 20 minutes straight.

Hoo boy, okay... I pretty much agree with what Dante Demon Killah was talking about in his wall of text above, and as for the items not working on Mundus, I think Resistance to Holy Manip works best to explain the Holy Water. I'm not 100% certain on the Untouchable though... limited Powernull explains it decently, but I doubt he has powernull so specific that it only nullifies Intangibility. I'll have to think on that one.
 
Well, could be a Advanced Non Physical Interaction, maybe ?

Also, Dante's Resistance to Matter Manipulation would be only with Sparda DT and his Awakened form

And it scales to Sparda himself
 
That helped my question a lot, thanks.

It seems that Holy Water and Untouchable cannot be used against Mundus, but that only happens in the first phase of the battle.
 
Probably because:

The distance, Holy Water doesn't have huge range and the first phase is basically projectiles for both

His projectiles are "resistant" to Intangibility, however this works when they are fighting in the Planet, so I really don't know, it's just game mechanics, I believe
 
About unability to use untouchable.. Maybe it s because of perma-DT, cause untouchable gives not only invincibility, but DT for around 24 seconds. After the use of untouchable also, your DT gauge sets to zero. So I think there s 2 reasons of not letting use of untouchable.
 
Ernest Equile said:
About unability to use untouchable.. Maybe it s because of perma-DT, cause untouchable gives not only invincibility, but DT for around 24 seconds. After the use of untouchable also, your DT gauge sets to zero. So I think there s 2 reasons of not letting use of untouchable.
So, I think it s mostly because of game mechanic. There would be two in game conflicts. About the use of holy water, maybe it s because of forcefield or something like that(Dante can not damage Mundus until this shield is gone.), meaning that even if he would use that 1. He would only damage or at best destroyed the shield, unaffecting Mundus. 2. As seen in gamefaqs discussion, Mundus is strongly resistant to Holy water, and the only of holy water 1. Brief invulnerability(in game mechanic) 2. Destroying flame dragon and spheres thus restoring you chunk of HP and DT gauge and preventing one of the attacks. And is unlogical to the first phase, but logical to the second. Though in the first phase it might be because of distance as Dante said.
 
Ok, so...for Dante:

- Extrasensory Perception and Psychometrics (DMC5 key)

- Cross Universal range with Yamato (DMC4 key)

- Telepathy (DMC2 key)

- Resistance to Matter Manip (Sparda DT and awakened only)

Trish:

- Resistance to Bio Manipulation

Nightmare:

inorganic physiology, shapeshifting, absorption, aura and statitics amp, trasformation , BFR, extreme cold, mind and fear manip

Mundus:

Likely Resistance to Spatial Manipulation for breaking Yamato, Info Analysis, Preparation and Matter Manipulation

He also should have the powers of his creations


Power Bestowal for any Full Demon since they tranform themselves into Devil Arms

Dienomite can summarize better the additions for Beastheads and Mundus
 
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