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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

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Alioth
Large Size type 2 or 3 (possibly varies up to type 8) , Acausality type 1 (possibly type 4 or 5, need more feedback) , Self-Sustenance Type 1, Existence Erasure, Matter Manipulation, Energy Absorption, Void Manipulation, Intangibility, Incorporeal. Possible 3-A rating

We have statements in the finale that Alioth also consumes space and time, Alioth once again is confirmed to have consumed other realities and thus should be scaled as such




this is what I had before way earlier on in the thread when Loki was airing

Profile was never made though
We have everything here for someone whose knowledgeable on making profiles to at least sandbox Alioth
 
I strictly believe Alioth falls either somewhere in tier 2 or just unknown. Where in tier 2 is the big question for me tbh. One day I believe he's 2-A, the next I think he's Low 2-C. The week after that I think he's 2-C/2-B
The thing with alioth is it literally would be impossible for this to be an overtime thing since the previous multiverse was stated to be infinite by kang and in the multiverse war flashback we got so it would then take infinite time with 0 progress for alioth if you consider he did this overtime. Alioth's literal statements and lore doesn't work unless Alioth consumed the infinite amount of realities instantly the way it's stated to have the ability eat "entire branched realities instantly"

It'd kinda have to be 2-A
 
Anyway on a note unrelated to anything presently being talked about I desire a Ghost Rider TV show or Movie as he is an immensely badass character that should be made relevant within the MCU.

I know he appears in AoS but AoS is kinda weird and theres no real hints of his existence in the normal MCU afaik.

I dont really care if its Robbie or Johnny tho both would be most welcome.
 
Anyway on a note unrelated to anything presently being talked about I desire a Ghost Rider TV show or Movie as he is an immensely badass character that should be made relevant within the MCU.

I know he appears in AoS but AoS is kinda weird and theres no real hints of his existence in the normal MCU afaik.

I dont really care if its Robbie or Johnny tho both would be most welcome.
So it was mephisto all along then👀
 
Lol imagine ghost rider crossover with charlie cox daredevil or she hulk and they have talks about the morality of the spirit of vengeance and even probably throw soft mentions at the punisher and how he was consumed by his. Plus it'd just make cool team ups.

I honestly feel like you could make a solid ghost rider show with the right direction and get some interesting dialogues and scene's
 
Fun fact when Peters identity is revealed in the comics he makes a deal with Mephisto to make everyone forget hes Spiderman.
Hum wasn't the whole thing about Aunt May dying, Peter making a deal with Mephisto so he would resurrect her and Mepshisto accepting under the condition that Peter's wedding with MJ would be cancelled and causality was reversed to make it like Peter and MJ never married?
 
Hum wasn't the whole thing about Aunt May dying, Peter making a deal with Mephisto so he would resurrect her and Mepshisto accepting under the condition that Peter's wedding with MJ would be cancelled and causality was reversed to make it like Peter and MJ never married?
Yep
 
Hold on. If Ultron has at most 6-C durability, doesn’t that make Wanda 6-C when new to her powers since she casually tore out Vibranium Ultron’s core?
 
Hold on. If Ultron has at most 6-C durability, doesn’t that make Wanda 6-C when new to her powers since she casually tore out Vibranium Ultron’s core?
No ultron was already badly damaged from being melted and was practically falling apart and even then she had a rage amp due to Pietro's death so it wouldn't scale to her regularly
 
That's true but it's just Ultron outer shell that's made of Vibranium the rest on the inside was still being melted by the blast even if the core itself was undamaged he very much still was both inside and out. Also do we know that his core specifically was made of Vibranium? Also still a rage amp and doesn't scale to what she normally can do
 
You know for how shit that 2007 Ghost Rider movie was it did two things well imo, Ghost rider himself (Not Johnny Blaze tho) and the Intro/having Sam Elliot narrate.

The way GR looked and acted honestly wasnt that bad and while the cgi is definitely out of date I still think the intro was pretty cool plus Sam Elliott has a god tier voice.
 
You know for how shit that 2007 Ghost Rider movie was it did two things well imo, Ghost rider himself (Not Johnny Blaze tho) and the Intro/having Sam Elliot narrate.

The way GR looked and acted honestly wasnt that bad and while the cgi is definitely out of date I still think the intro was pretty cool plus Sam Elliott has a god tier voice.
Honestly, every second the GR is actually on screen, it's genuinely awesome. The transformation scene honestly is excellent
 
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