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Ratio with Emil BlonskyBucky, Taskmaster, and Red Guardian got that off-brand shit running through their system
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Ratio with Emil BlonskyBucky, Taskmaster, and Red Guardian got that off-brand shit running through their system
Scaling super soilders to peter was also hella shady especially with how easily how was beating Bucky and samNo one gave John shit. He just took it
John and Flag smasher are currently the strongest street tier characters, unless you want to make an argument for Spider-Man
Considering how Caps durability got higher results than those pumpkin bombs and the fact that Spidey can harm those who can harm Cap, isn't really shady. And also, Cap can still also harm Spidey tooScaling super soilders to peter was also was hella shady especially with how easily how was beating Bucky and sam
What calc puts his dura above peter? Besdies peter scales to Tony’s arc reactor via electrto anyways. That doesn’t really prove your point. Ya with his nigh indestructible shieldConsidering how Caps durability got higher results than those pumpkin bombs and the fact that Spidey can harm those who can harm Cap, isn't really shady. And also, Cap can still also harm Spidey too
This (0.91) compared to this (0.54). And that's literally 8-A, Peter does not even scale to Electro's full power at all. Not once has he even been shown tanking a full power blast from Electro.What calc puts his dura above peter? Besdies peter scales to Tony’s arc reactor via electrto anyways. That doesn’t really prove your point. Ya with his nigh indestructible shield
Also, to switch to a totally unrelated topic, how are we gonna approach Agents of SHIELD scaling/canonicity? That sounds funny
Non-canon right? I thought we already covered that since it had like 0 indication of being canon in the current landscape and as far as I remember hasn't been acknowledged by feige or any heads for the MCU post EG and phase 4 disney+ canonicity talks in like 2021Also, to switch to a totally unrelated topic, how are we gonna approach Agents of SHIELD scaling/canonicity? That sounds funny
So true!
I know somebody said something about a guidebook mentioning it, but I don't know what that entailsNon-canon right? I thought we already covered that since it had like 0 indication of being canon in the current landscape and as far as I remember hasn't been acknowledged by feige or any heads for the MCU post EG and phase 4 disney+ canonicity talks in like 2021
Why exactly?Please don't argue NWH scaling after we went to hell and back to clean it up along with the connected franchises dawg
But in all seriousness, we can't scale any Spider-Man to Electro's 8-A and its pretty clear why
Man I'm gonna sound like a broken recordWhy exactly?
Can’t we do an “at most” rating since they weren’t oneshot by the attacks Electro put out?Please don't argue NWH scaling after we went to hell and back to clean it up along with the connected franchises dawg
But in all seriousness, we can't scale any Spider-Man to Electro's 8-A and its pretty clear why
The attacks they endured from him were casual 8-C ones, not 8-A reactor enhanced blasts. So no. If feel like me and KLOL have said this in 10 other threads at this pointCan’t we do an “at most” rating since they weren’t oneshot by the attacks Electro put out?
It was clear that Electro was at his strongest, even Peter 3 said so and he’s fought him more than the other 2 hasThe attacks they endured from him were casual 8-C ones, not 8-A reactor enhanced blasts. So no. If feel like me and KLOL have said this in 10 other threads at this point
I never said he wasn't. But the blasts he used against them weren't the 8-A ones. The 8-A ones are clearly shown during the fight with sound and visual design letting us know when the Arc Reactor is charging his attacks upIt was clear that Electro was at his strongest, even Peter 3 said so and he’s fought him more than the other 2 has
Only Tom Spidey took the Arc Reactor-amped blasts twice in a row as is evident from the whining sound of the reactor, and even then I'm not sure if that should amount to 8-A like Iron Man, since the actual Arc Reactor is rated at like, High 8-C. Even with High 8-C I am very doubtful since it surpasses literally all other feats in the category for the Spideys and Cap-tier people.But either then, 8-A scaling for all the Spidies would clearly be a huge outlier.
Chill out man. This is just a rating on a profile, I don’t even know what the **** I did to get a reaction out of youI never said he wasn't. But the blasts he used against them weren't the 8-A ones. The 8-A ones are clearly shown during the fight with sound and visual design letting us know when the Arc Reactor is charging his attacks up
Honestly, the pages would get so much messier if we had shit like "At most 8-A" and what not. 8-C has been super consistent across THREE DIFFERENT SPIDER-MAN FILM SERIES' and while I'm never opposed to revisions putting forth some new and strong evidence to make our ratings more reliable, we should appreciate that we got something as consistent as we currently have. That goes for the Spidey villain
Not even that would work considering how Giant Sandman got ****** over by High 8-C gliders flamesChill out man. This is just a rating on a profile, I don’t even know what the **** I did to get a reaction out of you
I’m starting to feel like an at most high 8-C rating could work as a safer option since peter 3 was able to hold his own against him in combat, despite Electro being superior
I'm not mad. I just wanted to put a section of my post in all caps to put an emphasis on the consistency being across three different films series. My point being, thats a pretty damn rare outcomeChill out man. This is just a rating on a profile, I don’t even know what the **** I did to get a reaction out of you
Spider-Man and Electro briefly traded blows, but Electro wasn't at his peak in that part of their second battle. It wouldn't workI’m starting to feel like an at most high 8-C rating could work as a safer option since peter 3 was able to hold his own against him in combat, despite Electro being superior
Then he probably got stronger by the time of nwh consdering goblin got an upgraded suit if I remember correctlyMan I'm gonna sound like a broken record
A) TASM Peter was overpowered by Electro at his strongest during TASM2. In NWH, Electro becomes stronger than before according to TASM Peter once attaining the Arc Reactor. All of the Spider-Men are equal and even if you think they aren't, 8-A scaling breaks any feasible scaling
B) The majority of the blasts endured by the Spider-Men in NWH are casual ones (8-C) that don't come from the Arc Reactor's power
I ******* hate that term, it gets thrown around way too many times when discussing character upgradesBut either then, 8-A scaling for all the Spidies would clearly be a huge outlier.
???Not even that would work considering how Giant Sandman got ****** over by High 8-C gliders flames
Not really how it works here. The suit was upgraded, but its not an Iron Spider glow up. Plus, remember that him and MCU Peter traded blows to their unprotected facesThen he probably got stronger by the time of nwh consdering goblin got an upgraded suit if I remember correctly
You're completely ignoring the sound and visual design that signifies when the Arc Reactor blasts occurelectro is siphoning of the energy from the reactor so it shouldn’t matter of there from it or not. Besides he was trying to kill them so I doubt they were just casually
That term is why we don't have Tier 1 Luke CageI ******* hate that term, it gets thrown around way too many times when discussing character upgrades
The 8-C values aren't straddling on 8-C+ or anything. Not really a strong argumentAnyways, High 8-C wouldn’t really be an outlier since it’s not that different from what the characters are currently rated at
And yet the Spidey tier characters has already had enough anti-feats to prove that they are, considering that lower tier 8-C attacks can maim them or even severely injure them. If anything, it would just be wank. Especially when half of these characters are not even any different from their first appearances, which is why we don't have NWH keys for any of them.I ******* hate that term, it gets thrown around way too many times when discussing character upgrades
Anyways, High 8-C wouldn’t really be an outlier since it’s not that different from what the characters are currently rated at
That term is why we don't Tier 1 Luke Cage
0.91 tons is somewhat close to the plus section if you bothered to look. “Not a strong argument” my assThe 8-C values aren't straddling on 8-C+ or anything. Not really a strong argument
Because someone here brought it up, obviously.Why are we having debates that were put to bed in early 2022 again
I'm acting very reasonable....? I'm not being aggressive or antagonisticLook man, I don’t know why you are acting like this. I get that that you’ve been dealing with this for too long, but at the end of a day, it’s just text online at a website. Not the biggest deal in the world
I thought it was already established that the Cap tiers are way lower than the Spider-Man tiers at this point?And yet the Spidey tier characters has already had enough anti-feats to prove that they are, considering that lower tier 8-C attacks can maim them or even severely injure them. If anything, it would just be wank. Especially when half of these characters are not even any different from their first appearances, which is why we don't have NWH keys for any of them.
I really don't see how exactly he's trying to be aggressive here, we're just pointing out why the Spidies shouldn't scale to Electro at allLook man, I don’t know why you are acting like this. I get that that you’ve been dealing with this for too long, but at the end of a day, it’s just text online at a website. Not the biggest deal in the world
No, we've established threads back that both parties scale to 0.91I thought it was already established that the Cap tiers are way lower than the Spider-Man tiers at this point?
You were being all sarcastic and stuff and it made me think that you were annoyed with my thoughtsI'm acting very reasonable....? I'm not being aggressive or antagonistic
Can you… please stay out of this? I understand getting involved with statistics and stuff, but this seems like a different issueI really don't see how exactly he's trying to be aggressive here, we're just pointing out why the Spidies shouldn't scale to Electro at all
He was literally one of the core people involved in this Spidey tier discussion though, I just kinda hopped inCan you… please stay out of this? I understand getting involved with statistics and stuff, but this seems like a different issue
True but even then in tasm2 Andrew still took a beating from electro so even then wouldn’t they be at least high 8-cNot really how it works here. The suit was upgraded, but its not an Iron Spider glow up. Plus, remember that him and MCU Peter traded blows to their unprotected faces
You're completely ignoring the sound and visual design that signifies when the Arc Reactor blasts occur
That term is why we don't Tier 1 Luke Cage
The 8-C values aren't straddling on 8-C+ or anything. Not really a strong argument
Why are we having debates that were put to bed in early 2022 again