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Though after re watching there creation scene it seems that galaxies are forming around there stars as there making them simultaneously. So shouldn’t they be higher?
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MCU Love & Thunder Spoiler Thread
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It is via them creating all the stars in the universe, which should include the most massive stars. Doing some quick calcs I got results at the end of High 4-C
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If you're talking about that swirling stuff around the star the green Celestial creates, it's just energy swirling, not a galaxy forming, plus Arishem specifically says Celestials creates suns/stars
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Seems more like gas and the last one dose it to. Yes for galaxies to form thanks to there gravity
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Is it possible to get a "At least High 4-C" rating since Rot got results at the end of High 4-C?
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No. At least is just used to note the lower cap of a character, not used if a character's found AP value is merely high into the tier.
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Shit
Well at least, having a High 4-C rating would be good
Well at least, having a High 4-C rating would be good
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Couldn't the galaxy thing be just a chain reaction and not a direct act from the Celestials?
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Is there any direct statement that they created "all the stars in the universe", verbatim? If not, I think we'll just have to stick with a "4-C, possibly High 4-C" rating with both the values being baseline.
Orrrrrrr, we could just designate them as High 4-C via sheer size alone.
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That makes sense to me, since there far bigger than the stars they create. Though tbf, they say they create the star that then build the foundations of life (I believe that's how it went, haven't watched the scene in a while) there's really no reason to assume they didn't create large stars as well. Especially since the sun is technically kinda average in size.
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No, but it is heavily implied, for example when Arishem says that without the Celestials the universe would fall into darkness, implying that they are the only ones responsible for the creation of stars
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This isn't solid-enough evidence to assume they have High 4-C creation powers. At best their size is their only saving grace.
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Would there be a way to calculate the Celestials AP via size? Asking since i know GPE wouldn't work for obvious reasons
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I guess if they're roughly 79 times larger than our Sun (Our baseline for High 4-C uses Rigel, which has a radius of roughly 78.9 times that of our Sun), they could qualify?
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Possibly but the fact that there creating a star with enough gravity to form an entire galaxy would make me think the feat would be higher
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Logically speaking that's impossible, it would collapse into a black hole in that case.
We can't derive GBE from gravity like this either.
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Unfortunately that does not seem to qualify for the energy borders of High 4-C.
Rigel is 78.9 times wider than the Sun and is 21 times heavier.
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They're also shown to grab and move around said stars, no?
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Well they are several times larger than the stars they create, i'm gonna try calcing now using this shot
The star seems to grow during the shot as the camera zooms in so i'll be using a zoomed shot instead of the unzoomed full body shot
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Yes they do move said stars
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I said it in case someone calculated the size of the Celestials using the blue star as a reference
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Here be calc
Hope i didn't mess anything up since i'm a little rusty with caclos
Hope i didn't mess anything up since i'm a little rusty with caclos
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Nah i'm pretty sure those values are gotten by using the GPE formula and that uses Earth's gravitational acceleration and should probably not apply to things that are too big to be on Earth
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No. GPE does not work in space, and it certainly does not work on Tier 5-sized stuff.
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Then it's weird that the table includes values higher than 5-B
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Good point, but aren't characters given tiers for being the same size as something anyways?
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Weird indeed, but some of the heights are large enough to dwarf said planets, like 5-B for example, that height difference gives a hand size about 3.547-ish times smaller than the Planet Earth, so with that size the giant would see the Earth as big as a football (Assuming the palm size-to-height ratio of 1.71 m / 0.085 m is maintained).
LET'S NOT EVEN GET TO KIARA SESSYOIN WHO USED THE EARTH AS A *****.
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I mean the fact we’re talking about space gods being the reason that stars exist is kinda illogical in itself
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True, but the more illogical a feat gets, the harder it becomes to use any proper IRL formula on it. Case in point, GPE being unusable once you grow larger than a celestial object, like the moon, or our planet, the Earth.
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Here be the calc.
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MCU Eternals: Celestials Size
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So based on this, which tier would they get?
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Only the mid-end and high-end net High 4-C, if we still give tiers based on being spindly compared to the yoga ball in front of you.
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Their mass should at least be comparable
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Well, you're not wrong.
Square-cubing them up from a 1.71 m tall, 62 kg heavy human male and using the low-end size...
94939906.75 is 94939906750 meters.
Eternals size (Low-end): 62 * (94939906750/1.71)^3= 1.061084e+34 kg or 5334.9757626720402186 solar masses (Multi-Stellar)
