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MCU - Thor pulls open the forge of Nidavellir

Took a quick look. The ridiculously high assumption seems to be based on using the gravity of a neutron star, so firstly if that's accurate then the Class T feat is probably magnitudes higher as well and secondly the rings seem to be quite some distance away from the neutron star so the long distance GPE formula should be used.
 
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
Took a quick look. The ridiculously high assumption seems to be based on using the gravity of a neutron star, so firstly if that's accurate then the Class T feat is probably magnitudes higher as well and secondly the rings seem to be quite some distance away from the neutron star so the long distance GPE formula should be used.
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I don't think the previous Class T calcs took gravity into account, did it?

How would one use the long-distance GPE formula here? Would age have any effect on the Neutron Star's gravity? Would it translate to both AP and LS?
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Density doesn't change (besides bleed off) but the electromagnetic field would get steadily weaker until it becomes non-existent.
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So, what's the formula to do the calc again? And how to derive the decrease in gravity from age?
 
Was the gravity that high tho? Rocket and Groot were still pretty close Nidavellir and they were standing just fine.
 
Armorchompy said:
Was the gravity that high tho? Rocket and Groot were still pretty close Nidavellir and they were standing just fine.
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I don't believe we're saying the gravity was high but moreso if could you simply have a realistic way to calc the gravity pull based off the age which would affect this
Qawsedf234 said:
Pressure would decrease afaik, not the weight or gravitational acceleration.
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But nothing to do with it being high since we see Etri, Rocket, and Groot could walk around just fine and if it were randomly high for only thor that would contradict what we see otherwise
 
Well for the calc
(There would be losses within the system do to friction and other factors making him have to exert more force).
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This just makes it automatically wrong. Since he was in space, where there is no friction.

The gravitational acceleration is also just from the surface. Overall the proposed calc is just relying on a scene that just breaks physics in a lot of ways, making it hard to actually quantify.
 
The Nidavellir scenes seem to be under normal Earth-like gravity, although that is probably due to it not really being considered in the filming process.
 
Even if the scene didn't break physics, the main issue is that the weight is just massively superior to everything else in the franchise. Love and Thunder showed Thor training is weights not even a trillionth of the weight of that calc and they were effective. Its just not useable to try and use the Neutron Star to jack up the numbers when the numbers just contradict everything else.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Even if the scene didn't break physics, the main issue is that the weight is just massively superior to everything else in the franchise. Love and Thunder showed Thor training is weights not even a trillionth of the weight of that calc and they were effective. Its just not useable to try and use the Neutron Star to jack up the numbers when the numbers just contradict everything else.
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The Celestials have Stellar lifting strength, and by powerscaling and stuff, L&T characters are gonna get that too, which is beyond anything that Thor showed in all previous movies
 
MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer said:
The Celestials have Stellar lifting strength, and by powerscaling and stuff, L&T characters are gonna get that too, which is beyond anything that Thor showed in all previous movies
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uhhh, has this been accepted in any thread or is it just a claim you're making? If so I'd like a link
 
Armorchompy said:
uhhh, has this been accepted in any thread or is it just a claim you're making? If so I'd like a link
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It'll be presented in the upcoming Love and Thunder CRT. But basically, in the movie, Thor states Zeus to be the strongest of all the Gods due to him being basically the king of the Gods at Omnipotence-City, with even a Celestial being present in the city.
 
KLOL506 said:
It'll be presented in the upcoming Love and Thunder CRT. But basically, in the movie, Thor states Zeus to be the strongest of all the Gods due to him being basically the king of the Gods at Omnipotence-City, with even a Celestial being present in the city.
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Two in fact lol and also stated above specifically egyptian gods as well although theirs is Multi-stellar via spacial manip
 
Dalesean027 said:
Two in fact lol and also stated above specifically egyptian gods as well although theirs is Multi-stellar via spacial manip
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Two Celestials? Damn, must've missed the other one.

The Egyptian gods are spatial manip, yeah, so not sure if that scales to physicals unlike the Celestials who can literally fling it with their fingers to wherever.
 
KLOL506 said:
It'll be presented in the upcoming Love and Thunder CRT. But basically, in the movie, Thor states Zeus to be the strongest of all the Gods due to him being basically the king of the Gods at Omnipotence-City, with even a Celestial being present in the city.
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And why does the Celestials' star level rating scale to their physicals?

Edit: ah. May I see a scan for this?
 
Armorchompy said:
And why does the Celestials' star level rating scale to their physicals?

Edit: ah. May I see a scan for this?
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It's explained how their cosmic energy works in Eternals it essentially functions as a universal energy system, same energy they use to make celestial bodies is the same shit they use to amp and empower eternals to from their own energy reserves to survive planet explosions during emergence and it's what they use for basically all their abilities and stats
 
Armorchompy said:
Edit: ah. May I see a scan for this?
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It's in Love and Thunder where Thor discusses getting help from the other gods to kill Gorr the God Butcher because he got access to the Necrosword, that's when he mentions Zeus being at the top of the food chain.
 
No, the Eternals' feat itself. But i guess that'll be in the CRT.
 
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