MCU Love & Thunder Spoiler Thread

[ArkhamDC06]

Existing Profiles

Thor




Pre-Awakening Thor

• Magic and Power Bestowal (Unintentionally enchanted Mjølnir to empower Jane Foster)

Love and Thunder Thor:

• Power Bestowal (Granted several children his powers temporarily)
• Teleportation (via Zeus' Thunderbolt)
• Greater Weapon Control (Possesses Zeus' Thunderbolt, which can be bent and divided into several smaller bolts)
• Should get the Thunderbolt in his Standard Equipment since he used it against Gorr during the final battle

Valkyrie

• Should get the Thunderbolt in her Standard Equipment as she uses it during the second battle against Gorr

Korg

• Regeneration (High-Mid) (Regenerated from his face)
• Immortality (Type 2 and 3) (Can survive as a disembodied face)

Guardians of the Galaxy


Stormbreaker


Mjølnir


New Profiles

Jane Foster

• Superhuman Physical Characteristics
• Weather Manipulation
• Electricity Manipulation
• Pseudo-Flight
• Weapon Control
• Expert Combatant
• Acrobatics
• Weapon Mastery

Gorr the God Butcher

• Superhuman Physical Characteristics
• Immorality (Type 3) and Regeneration (Low-Mid) (Instantly regenerated from being impaled by Zeus' Thunderbolt)
• Immortality Negation (Type 3) (Gorr can kill gods such as Zeus despite their regenerative abilities)
• Darkness Manipulation (Can manipulate the shadows)
• Life Creation (Can give life to Black Berserkers)
• Animal Manipulation (Can command Shadow Monsters)
• Summoning (Can call the Necrosword back to himself)
• Creation (Created a cage to imprison the Asgardian children)
• Intangibility and Teleportation (For himself, others, and objects. Can sink beneath the earth and reappear anywhere)
• All-Black the Necrosword should be listed under his standard equipment

All-Black the Necrosword

• Empowerment

Grants the user the following:

• Superhuman Physical Characteristics
• Immorality (Type 3) and Regeneration (Low-Mid) (Gorr instantly regenerated from being impaled by Zeus' Thunderbolt)
• Immortality Negation (Type 3) (Can kill gods such as Zeus despite their regenerative abilities)
• Darkness Manipulation (Can grant the user the ability to manipulate the shadows)
• Life Creation (Can give life to Black Berserkers)
• Animal Manipulation (Can command Shadow Monsters)
• Summoning (The user can call the Necrosword back to themself)
• Creation (Granted Gorr the ability to create a cage to imprison the Asgardian children)
• Intangibility and Teleportation (Can grant the user the ability to teleport themself, others, and objects. Can grant the user the ability to sink beneath the earth and reappear anywhere)

Zeus

• Superhuman Physical Characteristics
• Immortality (Type 2 and 3) (Can function despite having his Thunderbolt thrown through his chest)
• Regeneration (Low-Mid) (Slowly but surely regenerated from having his Thunderbolt thrown through his chest by Thor)
• Longevity (Has existed for a millennia)
• Electricity Manipulation (Can conjure lightning)
• Air Manipulation (Conjured a gust of wind with a flick)
• Weather Manipulation (Conjured a storm upon entrance)
• Telekinesis (Telekinetically put Thor's disguise back on him)
• Summoning (Of his Thunderbolt)
• Weapon Control (Can telekinetically move his Thunderbolt, bend it, and divide it into smaller bolts)

Thunderbolt

• Electricity Manipulation
• Weapon Control (Can be bent and divided into several smaller bolts)

Gonna update my blogs with that

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Updated Zeus and Gorr Gorr the God Butcher with some of the stuff above, though Zeus still lacks Intelligence (probably Above Average though) and Speed

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Also, according to the MCU wiki, Zeus can fly. Does anyone remember if he's ever shown doing so?

None of that no

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Ego shouldn't even be mentioned since we know how celestials are born and he's the furthest thing from one

Based on what we know, Ego is basically a larval-like Celestial, since they need a planet to develop, it's likely his seed was planted on one that got destroyed or was extremely fragile and his seed was left incomplete, in any case yeah we can't upgrade him to that level anyway

 

[Revan_Laha]

Tiamut's Emergence is High 5-A right? That's the equivalent of a dude stretching his arms after waking up from sleep.

Eson's profile needs updation specially after they canonically changed Eson's design to look more than the Eternals Celestials.

Only people that would be 4-C are Thor, Gorr, Zeus, maybe Wanda?

 

[Revan_Laha]

Also Rapu was actually the Sun God of Gorr's species. I assume he should be able to move the sun or something, just like Khonshu can move the Moon

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Also Rapu was actually the Sun God of Gorr's species. I assume he should be able to move the sun or something, just like Khonshu can move the Moon

We have no proof of that, he could have just been called that way because he could generate fire and emit light and people said he was the God of the Sun, Khonshu has on-screen (utterly blatant) feat to support the tier though

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Tiamut's Emergence is High 5-A right? That's the equivalent of a dude stretching his arms after waking up from sleep.

Yep

Eson's profile needs updation specially after they canonically changed Eson's design to look more than the Eternals Celestials.

Definitely

Only people that would be 4-C are Thor, Gorr, Zeus, maybe Wanda?

Only the people shown in the movie should get that upgrade, Wanda wasn't involved in all of that and never fought Thor or anything (in fact she barely interacted with Thor at all in the MCU so far) so she shouldn't scale

 

[Revan_Laha]

Oh, I forgot, Padme would be 4-C

 

[Revan_Laha]

We do have Wanda creating a Sun in her pocket reality tho

 

[Revan_Laha]

Gorr taking a direct hit from Stormbreaker's sharp edge unharmed outclasses any feat of Thanos

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Gorr taking a direct hit from Stormbreaker's sharp edge unharmed outclasses any feat of Thanos

Thanos getting hit by Stormbreaker's sharp edge: *gets decapitated
Gorr getting hit by Stormbreaker's sharp edge: Tis but a scratch. Wait no, I just healed from it

 

[NaturalDestroyer]

Would Prime Odin and Peak Hela possibly scale

Prime Odin probably would. Hela I'm not sure

 

[Dalesean027]

Prime Odin probably would. Hela I'm not sure

If prime odin scales outight hela does there's no way around that

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Eson's profile needs updation specially after they canonically changed Eson's design to look more than the Eternals Celestials.

They did?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Technically,

One Egyptian God (Khonsu) = 9-B+ Physically via scaling above his Avatar, higher with Size Manipulation. 5-B+ up to 4-A with Spatial Manipulation.

Khonshu is 5-B+ physically since he most likely moved his moon by pushing it

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

If prime odin scales outight hela does there's no way around that

How would she scale? Odin is outright way stronger then her

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

How would she scale? Odin is outright way stronger then her

Her profile states that prime Hela was almost comparable to peak Odin

Almost comparable to peak Odin at her prime. Was termed by Odin to have "limitless" power, who was even afraid of her.

 

[Dalesean027]

How would she scale? Odin is outright way stronger then her

Prime conquering odin and hela it's literally stated she grew too powerful for him to the point where he had to seal her

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Her profile states that prime Hela was almost comparable to peak Odin

That sounds hella sus, when was odin ever show to fear her?

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Odin himself said he wasn’t strong enough to stop her.

“Her violent appetites grew beyond my control. Couldn’t stop her, so I imprisoned her”

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Prime conquering odin and hela it's literally stated she grew too powerful for him to the point where he had to seal her

Yet she gets folded by surtur. Imma have to look at some scenes agian cuz something an’t adding up

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Odin himself said he wasn’t strong enough to stop her.

“Her violent appetites grew beyond my control. Couldn’t stop her, so I imprisoned her”

If that’s the case then she should be equal or above him with “time” or something cuz she clearly wasn’t shown to be at that lvl in the film

 

[Dalesean027]

Yet she gets folded by surtur. Imma have to look at some scenes agian cuz something an’t adding up

She's literally not at full power against surtur her strength was still returning to her

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

She's literally not at full power against surtur her strength was still returning to her

Oh then mb

 

[Dalesean027]

The scaling chain is literally this

Weakened Surtur << Pre-Awakened Thor <<<< Hela respawning for the first minute of her life again<<awakened Thor<< Somewhat stronger hela on asguard <<< Eternal flame Surtur <<<<<Prime Odin who nearly killed Surtur < Prime hela

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Just make Prime Hela the 2nd key, simple as that

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

The scaling chain is literally this

Weakened Surtur << Pre-Awakened Thor <<<< Hela respawning for the first minute of her life again<<awakened Thor<< Somewhat stronger hela on asguard <<< Eternal flame Surtur <<<<<Prime Odin who nearly killed Surtur < Prime hela

Actually wasn’t pre awakened Thor somewhat comparable to Hela on asgard with gungnir ?

 

[Dalesean027]

Actually wasn’t pre awakened Thor somewhat comparable to Hela on asgard with gungnir ?

Somewhat at first kinda but she continously gained strength so that's what I'm representing

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Somewhat at first kinda but she continously gained strength so that's what I'm representing

Oh ok

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Iirc, Peak Odin is still stronger than a comparable Hela; it's just that she's too resilient to be put down permanently

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Khonshu is 5-B+ physically since he most likely moved his moon by pushing it

Wouldn't that just be Lifting Strength and somewhat AP? Which wouldn't scale to Striking Strength and Durability

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Wouldn't that just be Lifting Strength and somewhat AP? Which wouldn't scale to Striking Strength and Durability

Pushing an asteroid is still KE. In other words, striking strength

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Pushing an asteroid is still KE. In other words, striking strength

So do you have the scans then?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

So do you have the scans then?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Any scan that outright implies that he teleported to the moon and pushed it, rather than doing the same thing he did to the night sky.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Any scan that outright implies that he teleported to the moon and pushed it, rather than doing the same thing he did to the night sky.

Use common sense. Why would he teleport to the moon when he could just do what he did to the night sky?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Use common sense. Why would he teleport to the moon when he could just do what he did to the night sky?

Again do you have any scan mentioning that he teleported to the moon though?

 

[NaturalDestroyer]

Yeah giving Hela a second key seems to be the best solution. She was far from full power in Ragnarok

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Again do you have any scan mentioning that he teleported to the moon though?

Yeah. Literally what's shown on screen in the scene. Clearly the implication is that he teleported to the moon to move it into the position of a solar eclipse. Why else would we be shown him disappearing and then the moon moving?