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MCU Love & Thunder Spoiler Thread

Existing Profiles

Thor

Awakening

Attack Potency: At least Large Island level, At least Star level with Stormbreaker (Easily cut through the full power blast of the Infinity Stones and mortally wounded Thanos. Later, Thor used it to effortlessly decapitate the Mad Titan. Thor doesn't see Zeus' Thunderbolt as that impressive in comparison to the axe. Recognized as the key to Eternity in old texts. Stated to be the strongest weapon in Asgard's history. Is intended to be a weapon for a king of Asgard)
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Post-Decimation

Attack Potency: At least Large Island level, higher with Mjølnir (Can harm Thanos and Mark 85 Iron Man), At least Star level with Stormbreaker
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New Key "Love and Thunder"

Attack Potency: At least Star level, likely higher (Trained and became stronger than ever before. Can fight against Gorr. Effortlessly broke out of Zeus' restraints, caught his Thunderbolt, and mortally wounded him by throwing the weapon through him)


Lifting Strength: At least Stellar, likely higher (Effortlessly broke out of Zeus' restraints. Can physically contend with Gorr)
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Pre-Awakening Thor
  • Magic and Power Bestowal (Unintentionally enchanted Mjølnir to empower Jane Foster)
Love and Thunder Thor:
  • Power Bestowal (Granted several children his powers temporarily)
  • Teleportation (via Zeus' Thunderbolt)
  • Greater Weapon Control (Possesses Zeus' Thunderbolt, which can be bent and divided into several smaller bolts)
  • Should get the Thunderbolt in his Standard Equipment since he used it against Gorr during the final battle

Valkyrie
Attack Potency: At most Multi-City Block level, At least Star level, likely higher with Zeus' Thunderbolt (Clashed with the Necrosword)
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  • Should get the Thunderbolt in her Standard Equipment as she uses it during the second battle against Gorr
Korg
  • Regeneration (High-Mid) (Regenerated from his face)
  • Immortality (Type 2 and 3) (Can survive as a disembodied face)
Guardians of the Galaxy
Attack Potency: (Insert specific member's AP here), At most Multi-City Block level with various weaponry (Have access to weapons that can harm Korg)
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Stormbreaker
Attack Potency: At least Star level, likely higher (Easily cut through the full power blast of the Infinity Stones and mortally wounded Thanos. Later, Thor used it to effortlessly decapitate the Mad Titan. Thor doesn't see Zeus' Thunderbolt as that impressive in comparison to the axe. Recognized as the key to Eternity in old texts. Stated to be the strongest weapon in Asgard's history. Is intended to be a weapon for a king of Asgard)
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Mjølnir
Attack Potency: Varies depending on the user, up to At least Star level, likely higher (Used by Jane Foster to fight against Gorr, and can clash with the Necrosword)
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New Profiles

Jane Foster
Attack Potency: At least Star level, likely higher (Comparable to Thor. Can fight against Gorr, and destroyed the Necrosword with Mjølnir alongside Thor wielding Zeus' Thunderbolt)

Lifting Strength: At least Stellar, likely higher (Comparable to Thor)

Weaknesses: Continued use of Mjølnir's empowerment exacerbates the effects of Jane's cancer.
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  • Superhuman Physical Characteristics
  • Weather Manipulation
  • Electricity Manipulation
  • Pseudo-Flight
  • Weapon Control
  • Expert Combatant
  • Acrobatics
  • Weapon Mastery

Gorr the God Butcher
Attack Potency: At least Star level, likely higher (Empowered by the Necrosword, and killed Rapu with it. Heavily feared by Zeus, who is the most powerful being in Omnipotence City. Can fight against Thor and Jane, the former of whom easily took down Zeus)

Lifting Strength: At least Stellar, likely higher (Can physically contend with Thor)
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  • Superhuman Physical Characteristics
  • Immorality (Type 3) and Regeneration (Low-Mid) (Instantly regenerated from being impaled by Zeus' Thunderbolt)
  • Immortality Negation (Type 3) (Gorr can kill gods such as Zeus despite their regenerative abilities)
  • Darkness Manipulation (Can manipulate the shadows)
  • Life Creation (Can give life to Black Berserkers)
  • Animal Manipulation (Can command Shadow Monsters)
  • Summoning (Can call the Necrosword back to himself)
  • Creation (Created a cage to imprison the Asgardian children)
  • Intangibility and Teleportation (For himself, others, and objects. Can sink beneath the earth and reappear anywhere)
  • All-Black the Necrosword should be listed under his standard equipment
All-Black the Necrosword
Attack Potency: At least Star level, likely higher (Used by Gorr to kill Rapu and many other gods. Can clash with Stormbreaker, Mjølnir, and Zeus' Thunderbolt)
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  • Empowerment
Grants the user the following:
  • Superhuman Physical Characteristics
  • Immorality (Type 3) and Regeneration (Low-Mid) (Gorr instantly regenerated from being impaled by Zeus' Thunderbolt)
  • Immortality Negation (Type 3) (Can kill gods such as Zeus despite their regenerative abilities)
  • Darkness Manipulation (Can grant the user the ability to manipulate the shadows)
  • Life Creation (Can give life to Black Berserkers)
  • Animal Manipulation (Can command Shadow Monsters)
  • Summoning (The user can call the Necrosword back to themself)
  • Creation (Granted Gorr the ability to create a cage to imprison the Asgardian children)
  • Intangibility and Teleportation (Can grant the user the ability to teleport themself, others, and objects. Can grant the user the ability to sink beneath the earth and reappear anywhere)
Zeus
Attack Potency: At least Star level, likely higher (Stated to be the most powerful being in Omnipotence City, which is inhabited by two Celestials and the likes of the Egyptian Gods)

Lifting Strength: At least Stellar, likely higher (More powerful than the two Celestials seen in Omnipotence City and the Egyptian Gods. Restrained Thor, although he effortlessly broke out of said restraints)
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  • Superhuman Physical Characteristics
  • Immortality (Type 2 and 3) (Can function despite having his Thunderbolt thrown through his chest)
  • Regeneration (Low-Mid) (Slowly but surely regenerated from having his Thunderbolt thrown through his chest by Thor)
  • Longevity (Has existed for a millennia)
  • Electricity Manipulation (Can conjure lightning)
  • Air Manipulation (Conjured a gust of wind with a flick)
  • Weather Manipulation (Conjured a storm upon entrance)
  • Telekinesis (Telekinetically put Thor's disguise back on him)
  • Summoning (Of his Thunderbolt)
  • Weapon Control (Can telekinetically move his Thunderbolt, bend it, and divide it into smaller bolts)

Thunderbolt
Attack Potency: At least Star level, likely higher (Is the signature weapon of Zeus. Used by Valkyrie and Thor respectively to fight Gorr. Can clash with the Necrosword)
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  • Electricity Manipulation
  • Weapon Control (Can be bent and divided into several smaller bolts)
 
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Limited Telekinesis should be Weapon Control for Jean. And we should upgrade Celestials Tier and LS to High 4-C and Multi-Stellar before or in this CRT
 
Seeing all these 4-C upgrades are crazy but are there any plans to upgrade Odin or Hela? I guess both if them cap at High 6-B since the destruction of Asgard killed Surtr but its weird to think both Odin and Hela along with the other MCU high tiers are astronomically weaker than Zeus and everyone who scales to him.
 
For the Zeus thing I'm against it. We have two Celestial profiles that contradict the idea that they're all 4-C. Also, come on now, the suggested upgrade of 4-C just breaks everything else they've ever done.

If we're really do this (we absolutely should not because it will be contradicted by virtually everything else), then they shouldn't even be 4-C but 4-A and Multi-Stellar.
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
I don't see how post-training Thor tier characters being 4-C breaks anything when there's only four individuals that scale physically
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Because it won't just be them. As soon as this is passed it goes back to Thor being 4-B because Odin made some stars in a Burger King comic and then later on will scale to basically everyone because Thor will scale to everyone eventually.

They also still wouldn't be 4-C but 4-A since you're throwing the Egyptian Gods in there.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Because it won't just be them. As soon as this is passed it goes back to Thor being 4-B because Odin made some stars in a Burger King comic and then later on will scale to basically everyone because Thor will scale to everyone eventually.

They also still wouldn't be 4-C but 4-A since you're throwing the Egyptian Gods in there.
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I think the 4-A is where they're deriving LS from and Odins star shit he does in the movie and comic is only scaled to his creation hax or whatever


The 4-C comes from the celestials since they're physicals scale to it
 
As qawsed mentioned, Gorr being a “step above hela” should pretty much scale hela to at most star level
Which would scale literally everyone to at most celestial level

Does that give huge problems?
Like the surtur stuff for example
 
Kenshin_ said:
As qawsed mentioned, Gorr being a “step above hela” should pretty much scale hela to at most star level
Which would scale literally everyone to at most celestial level

Does that give huge problems?
Like the surtur stuff for example
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Real talk tho, where would the thanos levels scale in these small upgrades?
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They wouldn't scale they have no reason to

Hela literally has no reason to scale to this when it's been stated numerous times this will be the strongest versions of the characters we'd have so far heck Zeus literally writes thor and the asguardians off saying that gorr feats aren't impressive since he'd only killed "low level gods" and that he'd only feared the necrosword only since it could kill gods period

Ego shouldn't even be mentioned since we know how celestials are born and he's the furthest thing from one and Eson is being upgraded atm so that doesn't work as an arguement
 
Let's discuss: was Chris Hemsworth pulling the same moves for Love and Thunder press as Mark Hamill was for The Last Jedi press?

I mean, Hemsworth said LaT felt like it was directed by a 7-year-old, and that the story was sacrificed for jokes. But at the same time, he complied with everything, and the latter quote was I think talking about the original 4-hour cut (though I've heard that's still a problem in this film). So, maybe?
 
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Dalesean027 said:
Hela literally has no reason to scale to this when it's been stated numerous times this will be the strongest versions of the characters we'd have so far heck Zeus literally writes thor and the asguardians off saying that gorr feats aren't impressive since he'd only killed "low level gods" and that he'd only feared the necrosword only since it could kill gods period
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Would Prime Odin and Peak Hela possibly scale
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Would Prime Odin and Peak Hela possibly scale
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Odin has his 4-B via creation but even The Egyptians gods who have better feats don't scale to the 4-C physically so nah I doubt they'd scale unless we missed some kind of statement in the film itself indicating they do but without it nah
 
Dalesean027 said:
Odin has his 4-B via creation but even The Egyptians gods who have better feats don't scale to the 4-C physically so nah I doubt they'd scale unless we missed some kind of statement in the film itself indicating they do but without it nah
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Technically,

One Egyptian God (Khonsu) = 9-B+ Physically via scaling above his Avatar, higher with Size Manipulation. 5-B+ up to 4-A with Spatial Manipulation.

Old Odin = High 6-C Physically via scaling above Pre-Awakening Thor. 4-B with Creation/Magic.

Average Celestial = 4-C Physically/Creation via having a Universal Energy System exclusive to them and the Eternals/Deviants
 
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