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[RoTt35]

Celestials/Arishem

• Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Druig stated that he didn't have the power necessary to mind control a newborn Celestial, needing to combine his own cosmic power with that of four Eternals to do so)

Thanos

• Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Unaffected by crushing the Tesseract with his bare hand, which can melt through steel)
• Resistance to Electricity Manipulation (Withstood being struck by lighting)

Corvus Glaive
He should be 6-B with his glaive since he stabbed Vision with it and it's stated to be able of penetrating Vibranium

Mjölnir/Stormbreaker

• Magic (It's a magical weapon)
• Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Uru requires a temperature of 50,000 Kelvin to liquefy)

Valkyrie
Her combat speed should be upgraded to Relativistic+ since she was able to block Hela's swords after they were thrown and keep up with Gorr, according to her current profile she is only Relativistic+ with Thunderbolt as if it was giving her a speed amp, which isn't supported by anything and thus is wrong

Drax

• Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Withstood Adam Warlock's energy beams, which disintegrated a ravager into a skeleton)

Scarlet Witch
Her LS with Telekinesis of her first key should be upgraded to "At least Class M" since she was able to restrain and push Vision without him being able to move or fly

Doctor Strange Supreme

• Multiple Selves (Type 3: Absorbed countless creatures into his body for centuries)

Doctor Strange

• Reconstruction (Disassembled a bus into many pieces and then put it back together)

Gargantos

• Resistance to Fire Manipulation (Withstood Doctor Strange's magic fire)

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Celestials/Arishem

• Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Druig stated that he didn't have the power necessary to mind control a newborn Celestial, needing to combine his own cosmic power with that of four Eternals to do so)

Thanos

• Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Unaffected by crushing the Tesseract with his bare hand, which can melt through steel)
• Resistance to Electricity Manipulation (Withstood being struck by lighting)

Corvus Glaive
He should be 6-B with his glaive since he stabbed Vision with it and it's stated to be able of penetrating Vibranium

Mjölnir/Stormbreaker

• Magic (It's a magical weapon)
• Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Uru requires a temperature of 50,000 Kelvin to liquefy)

Drax

• Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Withstood Adam Warlock's energy beams, which disintegrated a ravager into a skeleton)

Doctor Strange Supreme

• Multiple Selves (Type 3: Absorbed countless creatures into his body for centuries)

Doctor Strange

• Reconstruction (Disassembled a bus into many pieces and then put it back together)

Gargantos

• Resistance to Fire Manipulation (Withstood Doctor Strange's magic fire)

Agreed. Also, the Uru thing reminds me, could Post-Awakening Thor get Greater Resistance to Fire Manipulation/Extreme Heat (dunno which one) for enduring the full force of a neutron star for a few minutes, if not more

Valkyrie
Her combat speed should be upgraded to Relativistic+ since she was able to block Hela's swords after they were shot and keep up with Gorr, according to her current profile she is only Relativistic+ with Thunderbolt as if it was giving her a speed amp, which isn't supported by anything and thus is wrong

This one I'm neutral. While it does make sense, wouldn't this affect scaling to characters like Loki, who can keep up with her?

Scarlet Witch
Her LS with Telekinesis of her first key should be upgraded to "At least Class M" since she was able to restrain and push Vision without him being able to move or fly

This one was brought up, but was rejected

 

[darkphantom9805]

Thunderbolt had to buff her or she wouldn’t of kept up against gorr

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Should characters who "Possess the Power of Thor" aka Worthy Cap & Mighty Thor, also have all of Thor's Resistances?

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Should characters who "Possess the Power of Thor" aka Worthy Cap & Mighty Thor, also have all of Thor's Resistances?

Neutral on this

 

[RoTt35]

Also, the Uru thing reminds me, could Post-Awakening Thor get Greater Resistance to Fire Manipulation/Extreme Heat (dunno which one) for enduring the full force of a neutron star for a few minutes, if not more

Yeah

This one I'm neutral. While it does make sense, wouldn't this affect scaling to characters like Loki, who can keep up with her?

If anything should be considered an outlier for affecting the scaling it should be Loki scaling from Valkyrie for fighting and losing against her once, and not Valkyrie who has fought, reacted, dodged, and traded blows with two Relativistic+ characters (Hela and Gorr) alongside Thor

This one was brought up, but was rejected

I didn't know, I already removed it

Thunderbolt had to buff her or she wouldn’t of kept up against gorr

There isn't any proof that Thunderbolt amps its wielder, much less that it's a speed amp, it is simply a very powerful weapon

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

If anything should be considered an outlier for affecting the scaling it should be Loki scaling from Valkyrie for fighting and losing against her once, and not Valkyrie who has fought, reacted, dodged, and traded blows with two Relativistic+ characters (Hela and Gorr) alongside Thor

I guess that's fair

 

[Qawsedf234]

I'm fine with the suggested changes after the remove of the Scarlet Witch thing (though for Drax it should be noted that scene linked did not have him exposed to Adam's beam for nearly the same amount of time as the skeleton feat, so he wouldn't 100% scale).

Should characters who "Possess the Power of Thor" aka Worthy Cap & Mighty Thor, also have all of Thor's Resistances?

I don't know if resistances are transferred for power amplification. Maybe just give them a possibly stat for those powers?

 

[RoTt35]

though for Drax it should be noted that scene linked did not have him exposed to Adam's beam for nearly the same amount of time as the skeleton feat, so he wouldn't 100% scale

It took Adam about 5 seconds to disintegrate the ravager, while Drax grabbed Adam's forearms for about 7 seconds, which from where he channels his energy beams

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I'm fine with the suggested changes after the remove of the Scarlet Witch thing

Actually, would the Scarlet Witch thing affect her AP rating, since she only increased Vision's mass and she ripped out Ultron's core when he was severely damaged by Thor, Iron Man and Vision?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I'm fine with the suggested changes after the remove of the Scarlet Witch thing (though for Drax it should be noted that scene linked did not have him exposed to Adam's beam for nearly the same amount of time as the skeleton feat, so he wouldn't 100% scale).

I feel the exact same way.

I don't know if resistances are transferred for power amplification. Maybe just give them a possibly stat for those powers?

Yeah, a possibly seems the safest to me.

 

[Qawsedf234]

It took Adam about 5 seconds to disintegrate the ravager, while Drax grabbed Adam's forearms for about 7 seconds, which from where he channels his energy beams

To use an example, grabbing a blow torch and withstanding the fire of the blow torch are two different things.

Drax wasn't taking the full brunt of the beam like the Ravager was (as shown by the beam still being fired off and hitting the area around them). It is heat resistance, it's just not the same as if Drax was hit dead on for seven seconds.

Actually, would the Scarlet Witch thing affect her AP rating, since she only increased Vision's mass and she ripped out Ultron's core when he was severely damaged by Thor, Iron Man and Vision?

AP for early SW will always be weird, since a lot of her stuff can be taken as hax rather than anything directly AP related.

But for Ultron at least, the front chest piece (which is what she bent) while scorched wasn't directly damaged like his face or limbs. So I would still say she scales to his durability enough to keep her tier.

 

[RoTt35]

A damaged and weakened Ultron could still take hits from Hulk, so at worst Scarlet Witch would be "At least 7-B+, likely 6-B" or just 6-B as she currently is. Btw, would she manipulating Vision's powers to forcefully make him intangible and then increase his density/mass qualify as Power Mimicry or maybe another ability?

 

[Qawsedf234]

It's some form of matter manipulation, power activation, or technological manipulation, since she's triggering his density manipulation.

 

[RoTt35]

It's some form of matter manipulation, power activation, or technological manipulation, since she's triggering his density manipulation.

The scene also shows that she is manipulating the Mind Stone

 

[ArkhamDC06]

The scene also shows that she is manipulating the Mind Stone

Wasn't it stated she could affect the Mind Stone because she had a special bond with it?

 

[RoTt35]

Wasn't it stated she could affect the Mind Stone because she had a special bond with it?

The statement is about Scarlet Witch being able to destroy the Mind Stone due to having a similar power signature to it

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I guess but honestly, I feel the whole manipulating the Stone should also be part of this. Especially since at this point she's not even developping even the most basic powers she accidentally masters in Wanda & Vision so it should really just be considered a consequence of her connection to the Stone and not a proper feat

 

[RoTt35]

I already applied the accepted changes so the thread can be closed now

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Okay, closing.