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Garou did not show that he was able to ignore durability. Otherwise, a blow from the combined techniques would have killed the Flash and Platinum immediately and he wouldn't even bother with Sage.No, it shouldn't. You're the only person I see here disagreeing with it.
I don't remember seeing Garou use his dura neg on either of the three. The only time he did (possbily), was in his last attack against PS, and when he did, he one-shotted him.Garou did not show that he was able to ignore durability. Otherwise, a blow from the combined techniques would have killed the Flash and Platinum immediately and he wouldn't even bother with Sage.
The shockwaves didn't hit him directly. That just means that the shockwaves have a range. Bang was deflecting the direct hit, but the resulting shockwaves were still hitting him barely.The fact that Bang took damage from the shockwave means that by inverse square laws, a direct hit would have killed Bang. This is obvious and was done to add heat to the battle.
Garou was using the same technique that creates shockwaves to damage the entire body, Bang doesn't have regeneration or molting to heal from that. It appears MCGSF needs to have its own thread because it's clear there isn't a consensus on what it does.Garou did not show that he was able to ignore durability. Otherwise, a blow from the combined techniques would have killed the Flash and Platinum immediately and he wouldn't even bother with Sage.
The fact that Bang took damage from the shockwave means that by inverse square laws, a direct hit would have killed Bang. This is obvious and was done to add heat to the battle.
So Garou could have done it at any moment, but he didn't... Just like that?I don't remember seeing Garou use his dura neg on either of the three. The only time he did (possbily), was in his last attack against PS, and when he did, he one-shotted him.
My bad, he used it while fighting SC, but it broke his exoskeleton/carapace. It would have been highlighted during his fight with PS and FF, as it was during his fights with Bang, SC, and DSSo Garou could have done it at any moment, but he didn't... Just like that?
Or why didn't he use it when he rescued the hostages and acted seriously?
That just proves Bang can survive EHRF shockwaves because they don't travel through the body.Garou wasn't even using RASRF when Bang was taking damage from the shock waves alone, his attacks were so powerful than even when deflected they still caused injuries to Bang.
The Exploding Heart Release Fist is just a stat amp confirmed by Bang's own words, and RASRF has no durability negation properties.
Isn't EHRF really just a stat amp, and the shockwaves are just a result of the amp? It says:That just proves Bang can survive EHRF shockwaves because they don't travel through the body.
The shockwaves Bang are referring to definitely just seem to be a byproduct, which could explain why it's not as potent as the RASRF, which is designed to control shockwaves to pulverize from the inside.The Exploding Heart Release Fist... As the name implies, it causes one's heart to pulse explosively in time with the impact of your punches. In those moments, it allows one to surpass their body's limits
Exactly. One is a specific technique that utilizes shockwaves to travel through the opponent's body and damage it which is why it would "one-shot" Bang. Not because it's strictly Garou's AP increasing to the level that he can one-shot Bang.Isn't EHRF really just a stat amp, and the shockwaves are just a result of the amp? It says:
The shockwaves Bang are referring to definitely just seem to be a byproduct, which could explain why it's not as potent as the RASRF, which is designed to control shockwaves to pulverize from the inside.
When?it was stated that EHRF creates special shock waves capable of hurting opponents even attacks are reflected
Yes. EHRF is a stat amp. The shockwaves are a byproduct.Bang explained in detail what exactly this technique does, it allows the user to surpass the limits of his body.
When was it shown that he used it?but that's even more ridiculous when Flashy and Platinum S survived an style that also includes this technique.
No, EHRF doesn't create special shockwaves, it simply is an attack that allows one to surpass their bodily limits when striking by timing attacks with your heart.Pure and unadulterated headcanon, it was stated that EHRF creates special shock waves capable of hurting opponents even attacks are reflected, Bang explained in detail what exactly this technique does, it allows the user to surpass the limits of his body.
Nobody is arguing EHRF can ignore durability. I'm saying EHRF shockwaves are clearly not a special shockwave meant to attack the entire body of an opponent, unlike RASRF which is repeatedly stated to create shockwaves that travel throughout the body to deal damage internally and externally. Bang can survive numerous and even point-blank face strikes from Garou using EHRF because EHRF's shockwaves were never stated to be able to deal damage to Bang's entire body which would include his interior, that is proof RASRF doesn't merely deal exterior damage.Your argument now somehow relies that EHRF can also ignore durability, but that's even more ridiculous when Flashy and Platinum S survived an style that also includes this technique.
I meant to say they were never stated to create special shock waves.When?
No one is saying that.I meant to say they were never stated to create special shock waves.
Yes, yes you are.No one is saying that.
This is based on nothing, all attacks create shockwaves.The shockwaves a byproduct.
I'm saying that the increase in stats causes a shockwave. How is that wrong? It's literally in the mangaYes, yes you are.
If all attacks create shockwaves, then how am I wrong. WthThis is based on nothing, all attacks create shockwaves.
The technique simply stat amps the moment the user attacks. It isn't meant to create shockwaves to deal damage and the shockwaves are nothing special. You are the one treating them as something special while we are saying the shockwaves are merely the result of the strong attacks.Yes, yes you are.
This is based on nothing, all attacks create shockwaves.
I never said that, let's start this one more time because it got all mixed up once I made the writing mistake of saying EHRF do special shockwaves (since my phone keeps dying I couldn't correct it immediately).You are the one treating them as something special while we are saying the shockwaves are merely the result of the strong attacks.
Well i mean normal punches do cause damage too...bang does suffer severe damage on his body as any person would if hit by punches, bang even cracked garou with a normal punch. The RASRF is specifically aimed towards dura neg.My argument is that Garou's attacks were so strong that even deflecting his punches, Bang suffers severe damage on his body, and after Garou used RASRF, his attacks became even stronger, to the point of breaking Bang's bones if a single hit were to connect.
Normal punches cause damage when they connect, but in Bang's case, Garou's punches damaged him even when he deflected all of them.Well i mean normal punches do cause damage too...bang does suffer severe damage on his body as any person would if hit by punches, bang even cracked garou with a normal punch. The RASRF is specifically aimed towards dura neg.
Bang does scale from sleeping Garou. Sleeping Garou is only 7-B though.Normal punches cause damage when they connect, but in Bang's case, Garou's punches damaged him even when he deflected all of them.
If people want RASRF to have dura neg, then Bang should fully scale from Garou.
I wouldn't say that's the only difference, Garou's RE and adaptability seem to ramp up dramatically when he is awake. Otherwise, Bang and Bomb would be 6-C and Relativistic or FTL by technicalities.The only difference between Garou being asleep and awake is the muscle coordination.
Because they are.Otherwise, Bang and Bomb would be 6-C and Relativistic or FTL by technicalities.
Me when I lieBecause they are.
I mean bang does scale, to the atleast 7-B, I mean we’ve seen Garou jump from barely damaging SC to one slicing him.The only difference between Garou being asleep and awake is the muscle coordination.
Thats because its not backed up and there's nothing clear about it :VPeople just don't accept that Garou got a clear AP and speed boost when he awakened for some reason.