I don't know.
I mean, being a triple line (and therefore having the ability to summon) would definitely make you a DV, since your magical capacity would by default be greater than Margaratt who, despite her power, is double line.
But it has already been mentioned that someone like Margarett who is a double line, was at DV level (although she is like top tier in double line)
But I think there should be double lines between the DVs.
It was mentioned that Time Stop doesn't work on first class mages (probably triple lines), and Kaldo was caught by a simple time stop.
And there seems to be a huge difference in power between the DV extras and those who follow us more closely.
Well I don't think Time Stops affecting Kaldo should really amount to anything now that we also see that Orter was also stopped in place, right?
He can finally be goated
Walhberg was first generation of DV. If he thought only 3 lines are necessary then he wouldn't have thought Mash would become DV.
You are missing the point that he saw everything in Mash, a beacon of hope in a world where eugenics reign supreme. He puts his hopes on Mash's future because he as a magicless human can change the world with just his fists and determination.
BOS Rayne is already DV. There is no set level for them. Each DV varies.
I said BoS Rayne when really it should be before that since his whole process of becoming Divine Visionary would happen before the events of the story.
Excuse me but do not straw man me, where the **** did I mention Renatus would be above Orter and Ryoh?
Surpassing him or not. All matters is power not lines.
The point being that because those 3 surpass him by a wide margin, Adam doesn't have a baseline. For all we know, he could just be in the country busting department, or High 6-C (unlikely but the possibility is there). Because of that, it negates the point of it being unlikely for people to reach his level.
There was no rule to begin with my point is that statement might have changed after adams 3 disciples succession
Once more, nothing was stated this was the case. What was stated was that in order to be revered as DV, you have to reach Adam's level and/or manifest the power of the gods, while also going through the 3 step program of the tournament.
No? They all took the exam what are you talking about?
While they all did, Mash was the one chosen to become Divine Visionary. However, he ditched the title, seeing that his actions alone were enough to sway the minds of the populace, so he gave the position away to Lance, which was confirmed in the bonus post-series chapter.
I already did if they had summon we would have gotten information on Fanbook just like Orter and Kaldo.
Was there information on Kaldo's page about his summon? Because from what I know, that info was dropped in that QnA blurb. And we got nothing about Orter's summons from my knowledge. No name, no nothing.
It never stated all. In that sentence
It was stated in chapter 112 on that page. I was not referring to the QnA in that instance, sorry if it looked that way, but I was talking about the beginning exposition in chapter 112 in that instance.
Giant feat has nothing to do with what I said. I was talking about Kaldo and Orter talking about Margarette power. They never once mentioned anything about lines.
I know that they weren't talking about lines, don't know why you think I was. This whole discussing is becoming a mess. But what I was saying was that the crux of Margarette's scaling was that the giant feat was treated as nothing by the Visionaries, while at the same time they hyped them up. I don't remember there bring a statement of Margarette being described to be on the level of the Visionaries.
He doesn't need to talk about it. Whole point is Cell war only having 2 lines and Rayne thinking he is on DV level.
It would really help if he would, but we quite literally couldn't get that because it's likely Summons weren't thought up yet, or at least completed in concept.
Send the scans where it states all instead of Vague statement.
Okay so under further investigation, it seems I've been having a brain fart moment. I looked at a translation of QnA 40, but it looks like it only mentioned the top 5 Visionaries in regards to only Thirds??? I've been confusing myself, whoops.
But still, I don't find chapter 112's statement vague in the slightest, but I find that if we were to continue debating, we would only disagree further. So why not have it as like. A possibly or likely tier? Because if someone like Cell War has a Summons, whos directly stated to be a DV level threat, then Visionaries should have them as well.
One of the reasons I think we should put the time stop resistance on triple lines.
Since Kaldo, a DV level and probably a double line (since there's nothing about him being a triple line) couldn't resist a simple time stop.
So putting it in triple line I think it would work better, as it would correct this "anti-feat" and put in the metric that first class wizards are triple lines.
Unless someone can argue that Kaldo is a triple line.
This part of Mashle's powers is difficult to put correctly on a power verse page. Since it can vary by number of lines, experience or pure scale of power. So it's a bit complicated to get everything right.
Yeah, Kaldo is directly confirmed to have a Summons, meaning he's a triple liner. Not only that, but again, Orter was also frozen in the anime.