Marvel: Supporting feats for 5-A

[The_Impress]

Would Silver Surfer feats work as well?

No.

I don't think you understand the 4-B distinction if you feel being "casual" is enough...

Surfer is willing to hold back his power and die, before performing collateral damage that MAY threaten lives, and he purposely just, doesn't use most of his power in a fighting situation.

Terrax is a ******* Herald like him, why would he do any of that

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

No.

I don't think you understand the 4-B distinction if you feel being "casual" is enough...

Surfer is willing to hold back his power and die, before performing collateral damage that MAY threaten lives, and he purposely just, doesn't use most of his power in a fighting situation.

Terrax is a ******* Herald like him, why would he do any of that

Alright fine, but did you see the Binary feat earlier? Would that work and be calculable?

 

[The_Impress]

Ms. Marvel as Binary destroys a world at full power (also Transmutation feat for turning the Brood Queen to crystal)
Ms. Marvel Vol 2 #23

Calcable yes, scaleable, meh. Binary can very well just scale to her own feats

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

That's fine, just want to see what rating this can give.

 

[Confluctor]

Got a few more, not sure how relevant they can be tho.

- sam destroys an asteroid coming to earth to earth super fast



- this usable in any way?

 

[Confluctor]

Old/90s Richard feat

- the weapon was gonna absorb the sun and turn it into a powerful destructive explosion, and he absorbs it. Count for anything?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Old/90s Richard feat

- the weapon was gonna absorb the sun and turn it into a powerful destructive explosion, and he absorbs it. Count for anything?

No
First of all we have that version as High 8-C
Secondly the Deathstorm at best is like High 6-A since the way it's gonna destroy earth was going to be to cover the whole earth and kill everyone
Thirdly Nova had to deplete his energu reverses completely to absorb it properly so this clearly does not scale to him usually

 

[Confluctor]

Yeah, I know, but I thought 6c to 4c feats were allowed?

Anyway, yeah, definitely not normal for a usual nova of that time, since it seems like one time thing. But can be used for some other stuff I suppose

 

[Tllmbrg]

Yeah, I know, but I thought 6c to 4c feats were allowed?

Ig, but like iirc it isn't even raw AP and at best hax and I don't think anyone has any relevant feats against Nova's energy absorption outside maybe Sphinx but he doesn't have much scaling outside being on par with Blackbolt physically and above The Thing so

 

[Confluctor]

True true

 

[Antvasima]

So have we reached any conclusions here?

 

[Confluctor]

no, not yet

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Man, all those threads are the living proof of why we need to finally have tier 2 comic heralds lmao. Anyway, could Tony’s High 6-A feat help?

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Man, all those threads are the living proof of why we need to finally have tier 2 comic heralds lmao. Anyway, could Tony’s High 6-A feat help?

Which feat, cause I remember those feats got downgraded.

 

[Confluctor]

Man, all those threads are the living proof of why we need to finally have tier 2 comic heralds lmao. Anyway, could Tony’s High 6-A feat help?

If there is a non downgraded version, send it through

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

What about Sol's Hammer? We can add that to Iron Man's weapons and such, but I don't think it would add to any scaling here though.

 

[The_Impress]

Okay so, we should be focused on wrapping this up.

Without calcs the consistency seems to be towards 5-B. We currently have a 5-A for Hyperion, but other than that it doesn't seem to be a case

We got a few wonky tier 4 feats, and some potential 5-A feats left uncalced. Black Bolt's Solar Flare feat may be 6-A

Currently can someone gather non-debunked, calcable feats?

 

[Antvasima]

I would also appreciate help with this.

Thank you for helping out Impress.

 

[Confluctor]

Finding relevant feats is hard.... Especially since a lot can be calculated into a lower tier.

Not sure what else can be done

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Unfortunately majority of the 5 tier feats are done by the 4-B group so it makes it difficult, I'll try to see if I can find any.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the help.

 

[The_Impress]

Currently can someone gather non-debunked, calcable feats?

By this I mean the ones discussed on the thread already, I'll rope in a calc member to... calc them once we have a list going

 

[Confluctor]

Oh.

Yeah can do that when I get home

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Is it only just the ones listed on the table at the moment, or has it not been updated yet?

 

[The_Impress]

Table also just has statements tho :v, so it can't be used

 

[The_Impress]

:/

 

[Confluctor]

Quasar #54

• Hyperion and Gladiator each could destroy a planet. (Statement)

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3968998 - Black bolt solar flare counter explosion

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3969417 - accepted and calced

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3969578

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3970547

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3985083

All the ones I could find which weren't disputed i think.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

I just remembered Johnny's Nova Flames which were calced at 5-B. Not sure if they can scale to anyone else but it's something.

 

[Confluctor]

Huh nice. Scales to other F4 people like the thing

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

We should get a calc member to check if its still viable though just in case.

 

[Confluctor]

yeah that would be great

 

[The_Impress]

Quasar #54

• Hyperion and Gladiator each could destroy a planet. (Statement)

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3968998 - Black bolt solar flare counter explosion

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3969417 - accepted and calced

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3969578

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3970547

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3985083

All the ones I could find which weren't disputed i think.

@Antvasima Can you get Calc Members to check these?

 

[AKM sama]

You can maybe also ask @Yar_R_agi_7k, @Dark-Carioca and @Psychomaster35 if they are willing to do some calcs.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

You can maybe also ask @Yar_R_agi_7k, @Dark-Carioca and @Psychomaster35 if they are willing to do some calcs.

Me? Which feats, the Surfer and Nova ones?

 

[Antvasima]

Quasar #54

• Hyperion and Gladiator each could destroy a planet. (Statement)

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3968998 - Black bolt solar flare counter explosion

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3969417 - accepted and calced

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3969578

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3970547

https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-supporting-feats-for-5-a.120816/post-3985083

All the ones I could find which weren't disputed i think.

@Antvasima Can you get Calc Members to check these?

@DemonGodMitchAubin @Jasonsith @Armorchompy @KieranH10 @Migue79

Would any of you be willing to calculate these feats?

 

[The_Impress]

In retrospect I don't think any of those calcs will likely get 5-B+ results, or will straight up be uncalcable.

Anyways I think we have noted 5-B as the more consistent end for these characters, so we can begin to apply this, no?

 

[The_Impress]

Wow everyone amazing activity.

Half the ******* verse is being downgraded, random Thanos wank isn't more important than this thread.

 

[Confluctor]

Idk what else we can do here, all the planet busting feats comes from people who are 4-B or higher, or those who can't be used for scaling. A lot of these kinds of feats comes from Surfer, Thor and Hulk, which are useless to us.

Maybe there are some on the x-men sides, but idk that side too well sans a few, so can't really say much.

 

[Confluctor]

The only one that was left out was probably BM's moon busting throw.

 

[The_Impress]

Anyways I think we have noted 5-B as the more consistent end for these characters, so we can begin to apply this, no?

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