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Marvel CRT: 2-A Cosmic Cube & Tier 1 Realities

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^ Is this outside of the realm of within the realm scaling ? If outside wait for the thread to see if we upgrade base Mephisto. If it's in the realm... It should be okay.
 
I have some serious problems with the IG users (Thanos and Adam) being "At least 2-A, likely High 2-A". I could have done another thread but feel this more appropriate here.

While more present on newer comics, the magnitude in which anyone can use the IG was always limited to its imagination & intelligence. Even Thanos was suggested to be using the gauntlet at limited capabilities,and with Adam this is far more notable. So both profiles are outright lying with their "Should be comparable to Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet" and "Had full control over the Infinity Gauntlet". I can see that latter possibly being the case with Thanos only with the proper statements supporting it, and while mentioning the context said before. It must as well be alone after the "High Multiverse level+", the rest should be before it, after the "At least Multiverse level+".

Aside from that, I'm not so sure if the High 2-A feat is really on that level.
 
I'm fine with getting rid of the High 2-A stuff, although that seemed to be what everyone else was fine with up above.

Can you give a scan to link on Adam's profile about how his IG scaling compared to Thanos should be quantified?
 
The way it was before was perfect, 2-B - which would now be 2-A - via being more capable with the IG than Gamora, who defeated many 2-A Cosmic beings with Thanos saying that any "any dullard would eventually prove victorious" with her power on that battle.

In that story at least, someone like Cap with the IG would be 3-A at best.
 
Okay. What do you think about the High 2-A on the main IG profile and on Thanos' profile? Are you for removing them or leaving them as they are?
 
PrinceOfTheMorning said:
Okay. What do you think about the High 2-A on the main IG profile and on Thanos' profile? Are you for removing them or leaving them as they are?
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I would rather not opinate on the High 2-A feat, fortunately the info for it it's in its profile and others can evaluate on it in the future. As for Thanos, and as for now, yes he should not be High 2-A in my opinion. If anyone can get enough evidence of him actually using the gauntlet/gems at full potency and such then there we would have another history.

 
What was the rationale/reason for IG users being High 2-A? I must have forgotten that.
 
@POTM

Okay.

@Elizio33

Probably "At least High 2-A", yes.
 
Antvasima said:
@POTM

Okay.

@Elizio33

Probably "At least High 2-A", yes.
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Okay. And should we still consider IG Black Panther vs God Doom as an outlier since the power of the IG varies of the imagination and the will of the user.
 
Hasn't it been suggested in the past that the Infinity Gauntlet be given a "Varies" tiering like The Ultimate Nullifier? Given its changing power level, I think that could be a good idea.
 
Anybody read the History of the Marvel Universe? Loved that Galactus comfirms that the Phoenix Force (Manifestastion of the Prime Universal Force of life) and the M'Kraa Crystal remained from his previous Universe that was destroyed.
 
I just read it. Thank you for the information.

It seems to be a very thorough job. I think that I knew all of the references earlier, with the exception of Tuk the cave boy, but I had obviously not sorted them into chronological order.
 
Elizio33 said:
Okay. And should we still consider IG Black Panther vs God Doom as an outlier since the power of the IG varies of the imagination and the will of the user.
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It seems like an outlier to me, but it depends on what other staff members think.
 
To get back to what we were talking about, I'm still good with removing the High 2-A from Warlock and altering the justification as Eficiente said above. I can't unlock pages though.
 
Added to that, the IG itself should have a Varies tier on how others use it.
 
So Zeus is 2-C but it says that Dormammu regards him as his equal, who was upgraded to 2-A.

Would Zeus and thus anyone else who scales to him be 2-A or is that now an outlier?
 
That simply needs to be removed from his profile. Odin had something similar when Dormammu was 2-C, but it was removed once the 2-A upgrades went through.
 
I will have to disagree with that, and wait for others to opinate. Specifically the IG having a Varies tier on how others use it is very consistent.
 
3 Day Bump:

I beleive I quite possibly have found a baseline to use for the 2-A scaling Still-Born Franklin Richards & The Time Keepers:

 
Dormammu still needs to be renamed to Dormammu (Classic) and Modern Strange in his third key should be 2-A, unless someone thinks Mephisto should be separated into Classic and Modern like Strange and Dormy.
 
Mephisto has also been treated as comparatively weak recently during the "Damnatio" event.
 
Mephisto owned and seal the most powerful lords of splinter realms in a necro dimension.

How this is supposed to be weak ?
 
Wasn't he beaten up by the Avengers? Also, Dormammu and Nightmare have also been severely depowered in recent years, so scaling from their current portrayals does not really say much.
 
Honestly I believe that they are simple enough that we can deal with them now. However I'm unsure about the Multiversal Phoenix Force being High 1-B via scaling to the Multi-Abstracts. It has it's own High 1-B statements/feats but Multi- Phoenix Force has been fodderized by forces far lower multiple times and repeatedly stated to be equal to forces like the Celestials multitudes of times.
 
Also correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the PF equal to the Goblin Force that was piloting/controlling/doing something with Earth-1298 Beyonder, who was going to destroy all multiverses (which should be a High 1-B feat).
 
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