I'm not even talking about the multiverse. I mean that there's a 4th dimension that can be mathematically proven and we just don't have a volume for it. Also, I'm like 95% sure what you said doesn't work as you implied it works.
Which is why I said it's not worth using the Cantor statements or the like. They're massively inconsistent with everything and there's no real reason to use it.
It's fine man
No problem, it's cool everyone get's stressed now and then.
Best decision. Good night!
Okay then let me bring recent info.
This still contains many of the previous problems and doesn't address the core issues. I never stated that the Microverse and Macroverse were not inverses of each other, just pointed out some flaws in Deagon's arguments, which still stand, probably why he's resorting to new arguments. Now, the second scan and the fourth scan are the only relevant scans here, as the other 2 scans are used to show the Microverse and Macroverse being inverses of each other, and while I could point out flaws in the given scans, Deagon would then likely again straw man my argument into saying they are not inverses, so I won't do that until he gives a valid answer to my main question that I have been asking for a while- How does the Microverse and Macroverse being inverses of each other mean Sama-D was referring to the Microverse?The Macroverse wank has been completely debunked. It's derailing to continue to stonewall a discussion thread on a subject that is certainly not going to be accepted.
This will be settled permanently.
"As above, so below! Here in the Microverse, I find the same wonders I discovered in the Macroverse."
1. Microverse and Macroverse directly referenced in the same sentence as "above" and "below" the "equiverse" which is the regular universe.
2. Microverse directly described as a "micro-universe within our own" in the comic, which means that this comic was operating based on that notion .
3. Another direct equivocation, "in all creation, from sub-atomic (microverse) to the macroverse."
4. A ship travels from the microverse to the macroverse.
And the coup d'état.
The macroverse was not a dream. In the comic he was shunted into the macroverse after being stuck in a dream world. Surfer says the one thing he is sure of is that it isn't a dream.
There you have it. The Macroverse is the direct opposite of the Microverse, which is a micro-universe within the equiverse, which is the normal universe.
Now, do you intend to persist in arguing for a ridiculous upgrade based on a bad interpretation of a comic run you didn't actually read? Or can the rest of us move on with a more reasonable discussion?
Silver Surfer is specifically talking about how the Macroverse is not an illusion formed by HIS mind, how it's not something HE'S dreaming. That has no relation to whether it is a dream to a HIGHER reality. This is confirmed in the previous issue as well, which you obviously didn't read
The previous question remains, even if you ignore everything I said above, how would the Microverse being the opposite of the Macroverse and somehow existing inside the normal universe prove Sama-D was referring to the Microverse? And Deagon even directly admitted to universes existing between the Microverse and Macroverse, by saying the normal universe/equiverse existed above the former and below the latter. So, did Sama-D miss all those worlds which could be seen as dreams? Did he miss all the "worlds-within-worlds" mentioned by Dormammu? And more importantly, how would Sama-D be referring to just the Microverse when he said "worlds"(plural)?
I'd just answer this and tell you this isn't proof for High 1-B.
I know that isn't, my point was that multiple worlds exist within each world, while Deagon is arguing just the Microverse exists within.
Elaborate.
It says "Worlds within worlds", which is plural. So within each universe exist multiple universes
It could but marvel talks about it as the Microverse, Worlds withing worlds can also mean within each universe exists multiple worlds(planets), even the solar system alone is has several worlds.
I mean... one universe in marvel already has infinite timelines/universes within one universe. Like 616.
Yeah Earth 616 contains infinite timelines but I'm just saying worlds within worlds can mean anything apart from universes within a universe besides marvel already gave us context of what they meant by worlds within worlds.
Ok i understand what you mean but "worlds within words" can't be referring to planets. How can planet be contained within another planet?
Worlds(planets) within worlds(universes).
This is the third time you are saying this.
That's true. As an argument it was dead on arrival.
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I would also appreciate if this issue is dropped. The Microverse has continuously been portrayed as being subatomic for decades as far as I recall from the stories that I have read about it.
And to be clear, no one has attacked either of you in this thread.
Can you show scans please? The latest scans say it's parallel anyway.
As I already showed, the Silver Surfer comic run referred to it as a sub atomic universe within the main universe. Which means the writer was working off of that "misconception." The fact that it was changed in other comics doesn't override that.
Antvasima himself said you deserve some warranted criticism
The actual question here is why he's supporting these actions deserving warranted criticism.
I addressed this in my post, I don't want to repeat myself, especially since I am on phone. Please read through it
