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Maybe, but I'm not 100% sure given how casual Hercules is performing the feat
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Marvel Comics - Thor Shaking the Realms of the World Tree
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Timeframe's unknown so we don't know how long he did it for.
Atlas left him there and told him to hold it up for 3 minutes once he showed him the Apples, planning to trick him in there forever, but Hercules tricked him back.
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Hmm, I guess maybe we could file Hercules' Infinite LS scaling under the same kind of rules as Galaxy level and Low Multiverse level scaling? Like characters only scale to him if they are consistently on the same level as Hercules at full power, like in the case of Thor, or greater?
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That seems like a good idea to me.
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You don't have proof that this “cascading energy” erased time, as far as we know it simply led to the rest of the Incursion happening, which transports the rest of another universe into that universe for them to physically smash with each other. The fact that this was an Incursion conflicts with this feat being even 3-A; if you have 2 copies of the same city, teleport all buildings next to each other & smash them, and have a character on top of a building in the center, he's not surviving much next the full destruction of the cities as a whole.
You are giving more meaning to this “cascading energy” than what it actually has, this isn't "2-C energy" as an attack would be 2-C from any part of it, this would at best be energy that naturally expanded across the universe, which would not stop when colliding with a body for that body to have 2-C durability, it would simply go through that body as it wouldn't be something physical. And even if it was, the energy itself isn't the same as the destruction it later leads to everywhere.
More to it, Hyperion is later portrayed (along all Heralds) as not being able to survive Incursions, necessitating this feat to be an outlier.
I had this to say about about the showing in another thread: "Doom only took their attacks for a few minutes (not 28), it was clear for other characters & Doom himself that he would die, the Celestials seem to be going easy on him given that they give him the chance to move aside and live & how they attacked him, with at least 2 attacking with only 1 eye beam alone (while having more eyes), and after his shield was down they didn't even finish him off."
It simply shows that the Celestials can go easy on enemies, if we list that.
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Bump.
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I thought that Hellbeast said that we should skip the 3-C to 2-C scaling, and just give almost all of them straight 2-C statistics, so that is what I responded to.
That said, the characters in question are obviously technically far more inconsistent than that.
That said, the characters in question are obviously technically far more inconsistent than that.
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Oh? In that case, yeah. Not all of those characters would get straight 2-C statistics. Many of them will get "3-C normally, 2-C at peak"
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Bump. How much more discussion is needed before these changes are applied?
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That’s not even remotely what he said… he said that aside from Hulk, Gladiator and Sentry, characters who have canonically fluctuating power levels, we shouldn’t use a Varies tier.
That doesn’t mean “give everyone 2-C”.
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Okay. My apologies about the misunderstanding then.
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I think that somebody who is knowledgeable and skilled enough can probably apply it now if they wish.
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Okay. That is probably fine. Please write a list of the exactly worded titles for all of the pages that I need to unlock for you.
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Well, it's very late, so I can't do much editing. I can help make the changes for Thor, Hercules and Mangog as a start, so I'll just need Thor (Marvel Comics) to be unlocked for now
Thor (Marvel Comics)
Thor Odinson is the Asgardian God of Thunder, a founding member of the Avengers, and the son of Odin, the All-Father of Asgard, and Gaea, the Elder Earth-Goddess. Combining the power of both worlds, and armed with his powerful enchanted hammer Mjolnir, Thor is arguably the greatest and mightiest...
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You're welcome. I'll need Thor (Marvel Comics) to be unlocked
Thor (Marvel Comics)
Thor Odinson is the Asgardian God of Thunder, a founding member of the Avengers, and the son of Odin, the All-Father of Asgard, and Gaea, the Elder Earth-Goddess. Combining the power of both worlds, and armed with his powerful enchanted hammer Mjolnir, Thor is arguably the greatest and mightiest...
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Well, I made the best possible edits that I could to the pagesI have done so.
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Hmm, "Low Multiverse level at peak, up to Low Multiverse level by overexerting himself" seems a bit redundant, though I guess it is a feat that took more effort and scales higher (9 Universes rather than 2 or w/e).
Also, I don't think the Blood Colossus feat should be used. I wish I had pointed this out before, but I didn't realize it until looking at the page now. The text "the Blood Colossus roared. Nine worlds shuddered" doesn't seem like literal shaking, but rather showing Thor was so imposing that the realms feared/were surprised/were impressed by him.
Edit: Oh yeah also, on Hercules' page, I notice base Herc has Infinite LS, yet Skyfather Herc only is Class Y. That should probably be fixed.
Also, I don't think the Blood Colossus feat should be used. I wish I had pointed this out before, but I didn't realize it until looking at the page now. The text "the Blood Colossus roared. Nine worlds shuddered" doesn't seem like literal shaking, but rather showing Thor was so imposing that the realms feared/were surprised/were impressed by him.
Edit: Oh yeah also, on Hercules' page, I notice base Herc has Infinite LS, yet Skyfather Herc only is Class Y. That should probably be fixed.
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Oops. I meant to change it to "Low Multiverse level at peak, higher by overexerting himself"
Hmm, alright then
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So you're going to apply the updates in all the characters that scale from Thor and Hercules?
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Not right now. Though I'd appreciate help from others who are willing to edit the other characters' pages
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The Godzilla 2-C scaling was accepted? If so, I can edit those pages and help you lighten the load.
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I think so, yes. Thank you so much
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What
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I thought we were gonna do a CRT
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This is the CRTI thought we were gonna do a CRT
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oh
Alright, i can edit some of the pages
Characters who have a varies mechanism are straight up ?-?, up to 2-C right?
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Well, lets start with the basics
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The Sentry
The Sentry (Robert "Bob" Reynolds) is a fictional character, a superhero in the Marvel Comics Universe. The character first appears in The Sentry #1 (Sep. 2000) and was created by Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee, with uncredited conceptual contributions by Rick Veitch. Empowered by the enigmatic...
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I am not a god. I have never created life... but I have lived. That is enough. So I will fight to preserve that same opportunity -- to love, to dream, to soar among the stars -- for all those yet to come. Many lives will be lost in the battle ahead -- but their efforts will ensure that some...
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The Hulk is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby and first appeared in The Incredible Hulk #1 (May 1962). Throughout his comic book appearances, the Hulk is portrayed as a large green humanoid...
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Beta Ray Bill is a fictional superhero that appears in comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character first appears in Thor #337 (November 1983) and was created by writer-artist Walt Simonson. Debuting in the Bronze Age of Comic Books, the character was initially intended to be a surprise...
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Done and no problem!
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quick question, if thor is gonna be 3-C normally, what's gonna happen to all the 5-Bs that scale tot him holding back? Will they still scale to Grey Hulk's feat?
*Also let me know if this question was answered already for sake of unnessecary repetition
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