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Well since you asked...Can someone just compile these “finite universe statements” and “infinite universe statements”? Depending on the context, both can be moot since a large enough finite size can be conflated to an “infinite size” by the speaker, and on the other hand a finite number given can very well just be a part of the whole, infinite universe.
Like, ALOT of this can very well be uncontradicted or compatible with one another if someone were to just compile them for analysis
Those that mention endless aren't useful as endless is about time.Obviously, some of these would be considered hyperbolic or symbolic
I don't think these are size-based. Obviously that's pretty minor.
- Incredible Hulk v1 312 (1985) - Bill Mantlo (The Narrator states: "...our universe named that is many-layered, composed of a seemingly endless number of dimensions...")
- Incredible Hulk v1 312 (1985) - Bill Mantlo (The Narrator states: "...traversing the myriad planes...")
- What If? v1 35 (1992) - Roy Thomas, R.J.M. Lofficier (The Watcher states: "...with every quantum moment in the life of the universe an infinity of alternate realities is created...(some AD Infinitum bs that I can't be bothered to type out)")
I wanted to ask also never knew someone was this dedicated.How did you find so many statements lol
A friend already had most of them recorded down in a list in case something like this happened :ρI don't think these are size-based. Obviously that's pretty minor.How did you find so many statements lol
What about the void getting erased by sun level heat?I agree with 4-A upgrade
What does this have to do with anything?What about the void getting erased by sun level heat?
It mentions Sentry in the posttWhat does this have to do with anything?
Do you have a source for this?What about the void getting erased by sun level heat?
Okay… that still doesn’t explain how the thing you mentioned is relevant to the premise of this thread.It mentions Sentry in the postt
Thor Vol.1 #160 Ego creates a shockwave that destroys planetoids around him and then the Recorder mentions that a cosmic catastrophe has occurred, in the next chapter the narrator mentions that in the battle between Galactus and Ego the universe totters.Can you link this cases?
Yes, it would be hyperbole if he did not have feats or statements of a similar level.He is, but that doesn't attribute that not being able to be a hyperbole for his power being too great.
A bonus fact is that Silver Surfer was weakened before Dr. Doom stole his powers.Of course.
If he used the bridge, why did he fly into space, isn't it supposed to be connected to Earth?Can't do due to lack of time, ignore it as it is, I can only hope someone to pay attention and see to it. It's also not really an artifact, it's a physical bridge in Asgard but then when used anywhere on Earth it may be a bridge that appears at different parts of the world or may be not portrayed visible at all, with characters leaving Earth w/o the bridge and popping up in Asgard with its bridge, it's weird.
- I can do this much
- In Journey into Mystery vol 1/1952 issue 88 Thor goes from space outside Earth w/o the bridge but pops up on Asgard using the bridge.
There are many instances where it is implied that the Bifrost is not necessary to go from Earth to Asgard and vice versa, That the Bifrost is the only entrance to the realm does not imply that one can only travel through it.
- In Journey into Mystery vol 1/1952 issue 92 it's stated that Asgard can only be reached from Earth by the bridge, which would seem to go against what Thor did. If it can only be reached by the bridge in Earth than why was Thor able to use it on space?
The same as before Thor always enters through the main entrance out of respect for Odin, just because the Bifrost is there doesn't mean it was used.
- In Journey into Mystery vol 1/1952 issue 94 Thor flies from space into Asgard w/o the bridge but the bridge's used when he gets there.
However, we have multiple instances where they traveled beyond Asgard without using the bifrost and arrived in the normal universe, indicating that Asgard, at least according to Stan Lee, is physically connected to the universe.The bridge is always on Asgard, there is no way for something omnidirectional in Asgard that goes a bit beyond Asgard to no reach Earth, as it should be reaching the bridge by moving that little much.
It is not only the fact that it has survived but the comic shows very clearly that it is not a common planetoid, first we have the fact that it was created by the celestials and that apparently it has been in existence since the Black Galaxy was created, it is the center of the galaxy and it is the only astronomical object in the Black Galaxy that is not composed of organic matter and finally and most importantly the planet comes out unscathed from the energies that were shaking/tearing the whole galaxy, no common planetoid could resist that.
- We go by the take of the planet having the durabilty to have suvived that as it did rather than the Energy Manip in the blast not targeting it and the characters there. It makes too much sense that they would not blast & absorb the only planet not made of living matter when only absorbing planets made of living matter.
Now looking at it more carefully those "rocks" seem to be all that organic matter that is orbiting around the galaxy.
- Not even small mountains and rocks were messed up by this, we do see some rocks being blown away when the blast expands further into the planet by looking closely, but that's inconsistent to how clean and unaffected tinier rocks are in the place Thor & co. are. It would make sense that this was inconsistent given how weird that is.
Everything I have mentioned is pure headcanon.
- I as I see it, I imagine the feat like if you would see a mysterious character blasting enegy at regular humans to vaporize evil beings behind them, the blast covering them all but only vaporizing the evil beings, then the mysterious character just leaves. You wouldn't think "they took the blast", just "they were never the target and that energy was manipulated to not harm them in the same way", even if the humans were somewhat affected by that. We know the explosion is energy being manipulated that they then control to withdraw pretty much in reverse, when it was done being an explosion, with a control that precise, the purpose of the blast not targeting the planet where it happened, and the latter requiring to have durability on the level of the explosion while also having some rocks blown away but also also smaller rocks closer to the explosion unaffected, it makes the most sense to me that the character took some effect from the blast but not at all all of it as if it was a regular explosion.
In fiction it does, and in this case it seems to refer to natural explosions because it says galaxies in the plural and I don't think many guys have gone around exploding galaxies.Yes but galaxies don't explode, he may refer to someone making them explode, which they are a number of ways to do.
What do you mean by covering with energy? For it to be 3-C it has to be a galaxy-sized explosion that wipes out all the stars.If a galaxy were to be covered with energy and then that blows up then the feat itself is 3-C, but taking it from the epicenter isn't the same in durability, as the whole explosion didn't came from there. Replace "cover with energy" with anything where the whole explosion still doesn't came from the epicenter and the result is the same.
Huh? the idea is to convey that they are much more powerful and bigger explosions than a galaxy explosion for something he ended up saying that the firmament itself was covered.The second sentence may also refer to some Area of Effect thing.
The fact that they tell you that they made the heavens and the very firmament of the universe tremble, is a clear insinuation that they made the whole universe tremble.Didn't see the "the heavens and" before, but doesn't change much. What I think of that is the same with some changes in the wording.
It can also be poetic.
In itself the calculation is a low end since the Galactus explosion did not stop in only 3 solar systems.The feat used to be in Galactus' profile in his hungry key, the wording used made it seem like he was weakened but yet a bit amped, it's weird, and better to take the feat as what it did on its own.
I think that might be due to destroying something that had galaxy in its name? Idk. We will see.
Mother Storm can exert her will and use her power even when inside Mjolnir, so by being able to resist these energies Mjolnir's durability suits Mother Storm. For even if she is in a "pocket reality", when she uses her powers her energy must pass through Mjolnir.I refer to what much Mjolnir can have inside, in case that bit is seen as a feat.
In the situation in which this statement is presented, she does not have the opportunity to escape and progressively destroy the galaxy. And with the context provided by these statements:All the "this is very powerful" stuff is true, she would need so to get away with that much evil, but a super terrorist can be anywhere from Tier 8 to anything higher themselves to threaten to burn the whole world while angry, even if they already are a threat to the planet. They can destroy things overtime or mess up society as we know it in evil ways w/o annihilating it.
Please don't bump threads so early from the most recent post.Bump
Huh?What about the void getting erased by sun level heat?
I got your broDo you have a source for this?
Nice work, although the black hole created by Silver Surfer could be the one in this panel:
In the same Watcher flashback it is clear how he was referring to the battle between the two:I don't see how this refers to their fight and not his job in general taking time as so that happening over time.
Sentry should, and likely X-Man. Apparently he and Sentry fought him together and defeated him. Just the two. 'Its also not a contradiction from what Spidey said back in Sentry/Spidey #1.who scales Hungry Galactus
Does this mean Thanos will be 3-C?Sentry should, and likely X-Man. Apparently he and Sentry fought him together and defeated him. Just the two. 'Its also not a contradiction from what Spidey said back in Sentry/Spidey #1.
also base Thanos can also scale
I'm not sure. I'll check the fight though.If Galactus gets that, sure. And so would Tyrant
Also, been a while since I read Thanos shit, but doesn't he and Odin destroy most of the galaxy in their fight? Or am I thinking of another character?
I mean, is there even research done on thought years?Can one assume that one billion thought-years is at least one billion light-years?
If this value is used, the result of the storm created by Thor is 7.55 ZettaFoe (1.39 below 3-C).
If you do, please let me knowI'm not sure. I'll check the fight though.