Scottycj256
He/Him- 1,770
- 924
I might be wrong but iirc 4-A, since there isn't any implication of the realm being universe sized
does this have to do with Heralds being 4-A?
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C
- Thread starter Kulf_Boba
- Start date
- Status
does this have to do with Heralds being 4-A?
- 11,807
- 7,372
- 939
- 581
- Thread starter
- #123
Technically Thor does not scale to the full durability of Mjolnir, as he did not literally tank the blast at the epicenter but to one side and therefore only received a portion of the total energy of the blast.
- 11,807
- 7,372
...did you miss the part where that's RKT?
- 939
- 581
- Thread starter
- #125
Wouldn't Thor's rules apply when he's holding back?
- 3,759
- 1,615
Same as Yuri said so I'm just gonna stop derailing and not connected to any herald.
Scottycj256
He/Him- 1,770
- 924
btw I agree with the revision, 4-A is more consistent than 3-C
- 939
- 581
- Thread starter
- #128
No, but the main idea was to answer why it wouldn't scale to Mjolnir's full durability.
- 11,807
- 7,372
...how is Thor holding back Mjolnir blowing up?
- 939
- 581
- Thread starter
- #130
There's also the claim that Silver Surfer destroyed galaxies in his fight against Uni-Lord.
Although, why couldn't it be used?
@The_Impress
Although, why couldn't it be used?
@The_Impress
- 11,807
- 7,372
Because its not a chain of events as Thor desires it tho, he has no control over Mjolnir's explosion :V
- 939
- 581
- Thread starter
- #132
I mean he was holding back against the other characters.
- 939
- 581
- Thread starter
- #133
Oliver_de_jesus
He/Him- 24,925
- 17,843
No, this before but I think he still had the Odinforce iirc
- 12,673
- 9,625
I mean he was half way through to RKT around this time. Right before Loki gets his own hammer.
Either way, there wa something wrong with the hammer, so it was able to break easily. I will need to reread that bit tomorrow to refresh my memory tho.
Either way, there wa something wrong with the hammer, so it was able to break easily. I will need to reread that bit tomorrow to refresh my memory tho.
- 939
- 581
- Thread starter
- #136
I calculated it by doing Calc Stacking and Ulik would be getting 1.3 ZettaFoe from the explosion of the hammers, this would be 4-A. Thor, who has a smaller body, received less energy.
We can therefore continue with the discussion of 4-A for the Herald Tiers.
We can therefore continue with the discussion of 4-A for the Herald Tiers.
Last edited:
- 7,638
- 7,806
Do you have the Sources for these?
Scottycj256
He/Him- 1,770
- 924
- 7,638
- 7,806
Source?
- 939
- 581
- Thread starter
- #141
Thor absorbs and deflects the energies of the Null bomb, which was to destroy the Black Galaxy. | Mighty Thor Vol.1 #407 | 1989 | Tom DeFalco
Mjolnir has within it the Storm God, a sentient storm destroyer of galaxies and as big as these. | Mighty Thor Vol.3 #14 | 2016 | Jason Aaron
Thor survives an explosion that breaks Mjolnir, which as we have already seen can contain energies such as those of the Null bomb or the God Storm. | Thor Vol.2 #80 | 2004 | Michael Avon Oeming, Daniel Berman
This also scales Ulik and Beta Ray Bill as it resisted the explosion caused by the destruction of Stormbreaker | Thor Vol.6 #3 | 2020 | Donny Cates
said hammer is made with Uru metal and is considered the brother of the Mjolnir. | Beta Ray Bill: Godhunter Vol.1 #1 | 2009 | Kieron Gillen
Note: The counterargument of saying that Thor only absorbed star-level power is a clear cherrypicking fallacy, since the way Thor uses those energies does not correlate with the destructive potential of the bomb itself.
- 939
- 581
- Thread starter
- #142
Last edited:
- 7,638
- 7,806
- 3,759
- 1,615
Everything seems fine. But why isn't hulk here?
- 32,835
- 38,111
4-A bruv, all the values already accounted for cross-sectional area and distance from the boom in advance I believe.
There's one 4-B value but Spino did some extra math I think.
- 32,835
- 38,111
Source of the scan? It is mandatory to give comic book issue names now.
- 12,673
- 9,625
Avengers Vol 8 26
- 8,997
- 9,718
Pretty sure that wasn’t RKT
- 6,592
- 3,428
I strongly agree with either 4-A or 3-C, although the first seems to be a bit more consistent
Oliver_de_jesus
He/Him- 24,925
- 17,843
So this base Thor, he no has Amps in this time.Thor vol.2 #83
- 2,610
- 350
I'm less concerned about how many feats there are overall so much as I am concerned with the validity of the feats in question. I might need to look over all of them again but it seems every mention of "Galaxy Busting" so far has no description on the timeframe of such a feat nor the amount of attacks needed to do so. Simply a statement about how "they are a threat to an entire galaxy" or "they will destroy an entire galaxy if provoked" or "these two characters destroyed one or more galaxies during their fight with an undertermined timeframe."
There's a lot of potential there but nothing definitive. It could be referring to full on galaxy busting but it could just as easily be referring to systemic galaxy busting after a combination of attacks. It's not like the 4-A feats which for the most part are just describing the result of a single defined action, i.e. their attacks causing the entire universe to shake. I think the only feat here than can support a straight 3-C rating is the Mother Storm.
There's a lot of potential there but nothing definitive. It could be referring to full on galaxy busting but it could just as easily be referring to systemic galaxy busting after a combination of attacks. It's not like the 4-A feats which for the most part are just describing the result of a single defined action, i.e. their attacks causing the entire universe to shake. I think the only feat here than can support a straight 3-C rating is the Mother Storm.
- 3,759
- 1,615
This Is true Yuri always asks me this on discord if no timeframe on some certain feats he says its unknown. Sad to say i know nothing about marvel but the 4A feats seem okay.
- 12,673
- 9,625
Pretty sure he was amped.
I am planning on redoing quasar, he seems to have a varied mechanism.
- 2,610
- 350
Unless there's context in the feat itself that suggests he's supposed to be galaxy level because of it, creating a galaxy by itself is not a 3-C feat.
- 12,673
- 9,625
Depends on it. But creating in one go is 3-C. Although can only be used as creation/environmental destruction feat
- 939
- 581
- Thread starter
- #159
In the Hulk profile you only need to change the level.
- 44
- 7
Where are you getting it being RKT from? It's not the first time Thor was shown to be more durable than Mjolnir anyway. Look at Thor #477, where the Destroyer bonked Thor so hard that a piece of Mjolnir came off, but Thor was only briefly KOed.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Q3vvATdPuXY/VnqP52C5mxI/AAAAAAAAfE4/8pAdOkzFxXE/s1600-Ic42/RCO022.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DOa2UIE_HQc/VnqQBDzS-5I/AAAAAAAAfIQ/FtF_W-ta-xY/s1600-Ic42/RCO007.jpg
- Status
Similar threads
