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Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thanos crushes the Tesseract

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This calculation of Thanos crushing the Tesseract needs to be discussed.

Some dude on Naruto Forums calculated:

Minor thing but, from the first Avengers:

Steve: Does Loki need any particular kind of power source?

BANNER: He's got to heat the cube to a hundred and twenty million Kelvin just to break through the Coulomb barrier.

Implying the Tesseract could theorectically survive just under that, yet Thanos just kinda breaks it.

Taking it at face value:

http://www.endmemo.com/physics/radenergy.php

And using a surface area of like 0.02 m^2 as an eyeballed lowball, we get 2.3515E+23 Joules or 56.2 Teratons of tnt per second, so consistency I guess

But then Kepekley23 revised it:

TesseractSize
Ring finger diameter = 28px = 19.8mm (average ring size for men is 10) Ôù¥ Edge size = 164px = 0.115971428571m Ôù¥ Surface area = 6*0.115971428571^2 = 0.08069623346m┬▓

Assuming an emissivity of 0.03, aka that of copper; Ôù¥ rE = 0.03*5.6703e-8*120000000^4*0.08069623346 = 2.8463123820422e+22 watts/second, or 6.8 teratons of TNT (Small Country level+)

Could be higher, but yeah, that surface area is nowhere near lowballed anyway.

Matthew Schroeder says the minimum emissivity is 0.92 after a certain temperature, I also vaguely recall DontTalkDT saying that, but the DontTalkDT showed up and said:

Hmmm.... did I say that? If so I perhaps overgeneralized.

For stars and star like objects this should be true (as they are approximately black bodies apparently), but it shouldn't hold in general. As I learnt recently the emissivity of the plasma in a fusion reactor, for example, is on purpose made small through some means or another.

Then Kep said:

For black bodies, emissivity is not necessary, I believe, since it's ~1 by default. We can calculate the radiation with the temperature, area and the Boltzmann constant alone.

I am not sure what is the conclusion.

Note: Former calc group members, calc group members and Kaltias only
 
Before you remove this post, I have a question that I was meaning to ask. So in the first guardians movie, we see someone try to grab an infinity ston, only to blow up from doing so, and Thanos is able to the stones multiple times with his bare hands without blowing up. What would that give him if he can be unaffected by being blown up for touching the stones?
 
I'm going to plug the emissivity values of 0.92 and 1 (Both were suggested by other calculation group members in the comments) into the radiation energy formula with the surface area and temperature already placed in there:

Low-end emissivity: 0.92*5.6703e-8*120000000^4*0.08069623346 = 8.72915314e23 Joules, or 208.63176720841300948 Teratons of TNT - Large Country level

High-end emissivity: 1*5.6703e-8*120000000^4*0.08069623346 = 9.48820994e23 Joules, or 226.77366013384320809 Teratons of TNT - Large Country level

Kepekley23 also suggested 0.77 for the emissivity, so I'll plug that in too:

0.77*5.6703e-8*120000000^4*0.08069623346 = 7.30592165e23 Joules, or 174.61571821223708412 Teratons of TNT - Large Country level

At either angle you look at it, it's around the lower-end of Large Country level, so it boils down to which one makes the most sense and/or is correct.

Likewise, I'll stick to 0.92 for the emissivity, seeing that multiple people are agreeing with it. I don't really see the difference with either ends being accepted, as it's still within the High 6-B range.
 
Not a fair calculation. Thanos had the Power Stone at the time. He could have used its power to augment his own strength to crush the Tesseract and retrieve the Space Stone. The tier would be the Power Stone, not Thanos' inherent strength.
 
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