Mario Weakness question/revision ?

[ZespeonGalaxy]

So Mario's profile is pretty solid. I think there is some missing (but that is for another thread) my biggest issue is his weakness tab, it states "he's somewhat impulsive and not much of a strategist." But why is that? He had strategized attacks with Luigi in the Mario and Luigi games.


Oh and the "Weaknesses: Most of his power-ups have a time limit or can be removed from an attack" Since the bottomless gloves do not let him drop items after getting hit. There should be a (Without the Bottomless Glove) next to the sentence mentioning his weakness regarding attacks removing his powerups

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[Maverick_Zero_X]

The changes look fine. Never knew where him being impulsive came from and he’s a fairly capable strategist.

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Bump

 

[Foxthefox1000]

To be honest almost all games where he can lose power-ups that aren't time limits he can lose them from simply touching something like a Goomba. I think narratively it doesn't make sense to list it as a weakness for Mario but then not acknowledge the fact Goombas can in fact BE that damage that can cause him to lose the power.

For me it seems more like game mechanics honestly. We've seen how Mario can be hit in cutscenes and withstand events that should massively damage him within the same games where these game mechanics are found and he doesn't revert to small Mario or anything, which makes me strongly believe it's a game mechanic.

Examples are that you can have the Cape in Super Mario World for the infamous cutscenes where some castles explode on Mario, and the beginnings of games like NSMBU and Bowser's Fury where we see Mario take big falls and yet doesn't turn small like the gameplay would have him do upon taking literally any damage.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Admittedly though, there are cutscenes in the NSMB series that show Mario reverting to Small Mario and losing a power-up from a lick of damage, but I still don't like these, as they are basically anti-feats if we take them seriously. Mario has taken damage from Jr. before in other games and is just fine, but in NSMB he becomes small from Jr. simply running past him. You see what I mean? 2D games are the games where the most game mechanics and anti-feats are at play.

But whatever. Inconsistent franchise I don't care that much. I agree to remove the impulsive thing though. Being quick to defend someone is a trait most heroes have so we may as well list that for everyone if that counts as what the profiles consider "impulsive". Cause otherwise I have no idea where the profile is getting that

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Bump

 

[SuperStar]

I agree

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Bump

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Bump

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Bump

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Bump

 

[y3p_owo]

I agree

 

[SuperStar]

I think this can be fine to apply since it's a small change and uncontroversial

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

I think this can be fine to apply since it's a small change and uncontroversial

Was thinking I need more agreements but if this can be applied good. The impulsive weakness never made sense

 

[SuperStar]

Maybe just one more staff member approval, just to be on the safe side

 

[Armorchompy]

Seems reasonable. Powerups are really inconsistent one way or the other I guess.

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Thank you, Mario series can be inconsistent with feats sometimes. Can this applied now?

 

[Armorchompy]

if you find someone to unlock it i guess yeah

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Bump

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

if you find someone to unlock it i guess yeah

Do you happen to know anyone who can do that?

 

[Armorchompy]

any content mod, admin or bureaucrat

 

[XXKINGXX69]

It would be strange to list the power up weaknesses in the weaknesses section. if you wanted to do that, you'd have to list all the temporary powerups. Might as well just list which ones are temporary and how long they last in the P&A section

 

[Transcending]

This seems fine

 

[Mephistus]

yeah

 

[SuperStar]

Was it agreed upon to remove the power up weakness?

 

[AStrangeverse]

a little late, but I agree