Super Revisions Bros (Proposing new Powers, Abilities, and Tiers)

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I think we could put "At least Genius, likely higher" in the intelligence section

 

[Omnificence]

I think we could put "At least Genius, like higher" in the intelligence section

I don't think the "At least" is necessary.

 

[Armorchompy]

I think "At least" sounds better personally but it doesn't really matter. As for the LS stuff that's just sort of a new thing so I wouldn't touch it here.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

So the page will become "Island level, up to Small Country level with power ups | Large Star level with powers stars | Multiverse level when empowered by Dreamy Luigi"?

 

[Omnificence]

So the page will become "Island level, up to Small Country level with power ups | Large Star level with powers stars | Multiverse level when empowered by Dreamy Luigi"?

I was thinking of "Varies from Large Star level to Multi-Solar System level, likely/possibly Galaxy level" for the Power Star key if Galaxy level alone doesn't work, like this...

Varies from Large Star level to Multi-Solar System level (Stronger than before. Can defeat users of the Power Stars, which are capable of creating black holes and constellations as well as realms containing one or more stars), possibly Galaxy level (Fought and defeated Bowser twice, who was amped by Grand Stars; the Grand Star is capable of producing an entire galaxy[34].)

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I was thinking of "Varies from Large Star level to Multi-Solar System level, likely/possibly Galaxy level" for the Power Star key if Galaxy level alone doesn't work, like this...

Varies from Large Star level to Multi-Solar System level (Stronger than before. Can defeat users of the Power Stars, which are capable of creating black holes and constellations as well as realms containing one or more stars), possibly Galaxy level (Fought and defeated Bowser twice, who was amped by Grand Stars; the Grand Star is capable of producing an entire galaxy[34].)

There is any clip of the grand star producing an entire galaxy?

Also, does Mario fought with Bowser, when he was amped by the Grand Star, in base?

 

[Omnificence]

There is any clip of the grand star producing an entire galaxy?

The Power Star profile states...

They are stated to be comparable to Lumas by Rosalina, being one of many mature forms that Lumas grow to become. Some Lumas are even capable of becoming entire galaxies[8], which requires this much energy

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

The Power Star profile states...

They are stated to be comparable to Lumas by Rosalina, being one of many mature forms that Lumas grow to become. Some Lumas are even capable of becoming entire galaxies[8], which requires this much energy

Ok

Also, does Mario fought with Bowser, when he was amped by the Grand Star, in base?

 

[Omnificence]

Also, does Mario fought with Bowser, when he was amped by the Grand Star, in base?

No. He needed the Power Stars to fight him.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

No. He needed the Power Stars to fight him.

Ok then, i agree, I made some small changes to the text:

Large Star level (a single power star was able to move 12 stars) to Multi-Solar System level (Stronger than before. Can defeat users of the Power Stars, which are capable of creating black holes and constellations as well as realms containing one or more stars), possibly Galaxy level (Power stars are a possible future transformation of Lumas, with some Lumas being capable of becoming entire galaxies.)

 

[Omnificence]

Ok then, i agree, I made some small changes to the text:

Large Star level (a single power star was able to move 12 stars) to Multi-Solar System level (Stronger than before. Can defeat users of the Power Stars, which are capable of creating black holes and constellations as well as realms containing one or more stars), possibly Galaxy level (Power stars are a possible future transformation of Lumas, with some Lumas being capable of becoming entire galaxies.)

Hmm, I like that. We could also use that if we're not able to keep Mario at simply Galaxy level with his Power Star key.

 

[Lou_change]

Looking at the The Kardashev Scale which the site seems to accept the energy released by a galaxy passively peaks at 1E46 watts aka 1E46 joules per second or 4-B.

 

[Omnificence]

This should be fine to add now, right? Maybe we'll have to update the Power Star's profile as well.

 

[Lou_change]

I would like to ask what has been agreed upon?

 

[Omnificence]

This does make me think 3-C with power stars is fine

Sure

Telepathy (the memory one)'s for/with Cappy, not in base.

I think with proof that Mario's amped by the Stars in SM64 the Power Star stuff is fine to separate completely from the scaling.

One thing I noticed, though (and I promise this is not something I'm doing on purpose, I just really looked at the page now), is that I'm not actually sure about the 3-C rating for the power stars being valid. The galaxy creation feat is done by Lumas as they're fully fed, it's not something they can exactly do on a whim, I wouldn't assume the amp passively and constantly granted by a Power Star to be comparable to it. (If the energy that goes into creating a power star = the energy that goes into creating a galaxy, then the power passively granted by a power star every second that you're amped by it cannot be = to the power that goes into creating a galaxy/power star).

There's still the Stars' own creation feats, though, so at worst they'd scale to that.

For the AP stuff though, there is what kirbonic brought up. Personally I think it's fine because King Bob-Omb doesn't actually seem to be hurt by Mario's attacks and more just sorta loses a contest, and if you break the rules it gets mad and starts the fight over.


There is this though

So far this, I think.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Hmm, I like that. We could also use that if we're not able to keep Mario at simply Galaxy level with his Power Star key.

I personally don´t agree with Mario always scaling to Galaxy level through the power stars, so i think that the varies rating is a good idea

Also, could you add my text in the profile?

 

[Omnificence]

I personally don´t agree with Mario always scaling to Galaxy level through the power stars, so i think that the varies rating is a good idea

Also, could you add my text in the profile?

Okay.

 

[Lou_change]

Didn’t I explain the problem with the size of power star amps a while ago?

 

[Omnificence]

Looking at the The Kardashev Scale which the site seems to accept the energy released by a galaxy passively peaks at 1E46 watts aka 1E46 joules per second or 4-B.

What about it? It's not like we use the Kardashev Scale for calculations.

 

[Armorchompy]

That... is a calculation.

Regardless, I disagree with a "Varies" rating. There's no mechanism for them not always giving the same amp.

 

[Omnificence]

That... is a calculation.

Regardless, I disagree with a "Varies" rating. There's no mechanism for them not always giving the same amp.

Okay, then I'll just take the Varies rating off.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

That... is a calculation.

Regardless, I disagree with a "Varies" rating. There's no mechanism for them not always giving the same amp.

But you agree with "Large Star level to Multi-Solar System level, likely Galaxy level"?

 

[Omnificence]

But you agree with "Large Star level to Multi-Solar System level, likely Galaxy level"?

I mean...

Seeing as how some still have skepticism on the Galaxy level alone, I thought this would be our safest bet.

 

[Lou_change]

What about it? It's not like we use the Kardashev Scale for calculations.

You are suggesting power stars are 3-C by comparing them to galaxies which don't release 3-C amounts of energy as the Kardashev scale proves

 

[Omnificence]

You are suggesting power stars are 3-C by comparing them to galaxies which don't release 3-C amounts of energy as the Kardashev scale proves

Because we're not using the Kardeshev scale, we're using this calculation.

 

[Armorchompy]

That's the energy that it takes to create a galaxy (sort of), not the power they release. Lou Change is right.

 

[Omnificence]

That's the energy that it takes to create a galaxy (sort of), not the power they release. Lou Change is right.

Okay, then we could just say "High 4-C to 4-A" or "High 4-C, likely/possibly 4-A"

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Okay, then we could just say "High 4-C to 4-A" or "High 4-C, likely/possibly 4-A"

I agree with High 4-C to 4-A

 

[Armorchompy]

I'm not sure why you want the lower rating. To be frank I'd ask that someone make a new CRT to change the Power Star (page)'s ratings before applying that part because I feel like we're all a bit confused about this.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

This thread became a mess

 

[Omnificence]

This thread became a mess

Yeah, that's on me; I'll probably just close this and start anew.

 

[Lou_change]

I mean the High star level feat is done by a star not a power star

 

[Omnificence]

I mean the High star level feat is done by a star not a power star

Can we please stop derailing and just focus on getting Mario's Power Star key back?

 

[Omnificence]

You know what? Screw it. Let's just close this thread and I'll make a new one.