Im sorry, but this thread has turned into multiple pages of chaos. It should not be this much discussion. Mikey is the
far better fighter
That above average possibly gifted level statement again lol. And thanks for actually providing scans for his BIQ.
The bottle cap stuff doesn't happen in battles. A bottle is a still object, unlike a moving opponent.
Defensive feats? No, he just overpowers his opponents through speed and that's the blatant truth that he struggles to fight against characters of speed similar to him.
Rebounding and balance is just acrobatics and Dazai currently has a better feat than him,
even Akutagawa performed it (I don't think I should use the word "even" as Akutagawa is a good fighter).
How good is Izana's battle plotting and prep time? What was Izana's battle strategy anyways? It was all Kisaki's plan lol, which was a psychological plan rather than a battle strategy.
None of them are even close to an "expert fighter", they are just delinquents who don't come close to even Higuchi.
Chuuya has higher durability than Dazai's AP, so high that he can go toe-to-toe with characters who unquestionably belong to way higher tiers. Secondly, Chuuya just mocked Dazai's No Longer Human which I already addressed, so stop manipulating a scan to a different meaning without any proof of how Dazai's skill level is low.
Dazai trained Atsushi for 4 and half years,
he's like the boss of the port mafia, so does that mean he's better than Mikey because port mafia had more successes than any gang in TR? No lol, give feats and not some never supported narratives, which again are just made up narratives.
meaning the same would apply when he attacks Mikey,
No, Mikey is significantly faster than Dazai like Chuuya was.
who has repeatedly tanked punches from (proof)
Peh-Yan,
He's a literal low-mid tier
Tank? LOL. This is exactly what I am saying, Dazai will give him this same treatment
Draken(before fighting Izana),
He fell down in 7 punches? Dazai's doing him in a minute for sure now.
He tanked Izana's kick which only happened for once. This just says that Taiju has a higher AP than Izana.
and
Kakucho without even attempting to block
That's bad when Mikey is supposed to block here. His head falls to the side either way.
and all have higher AP than Dazai,
Questionable, but ok. Dazai's AP and Dura are much higher than he currently has and that's a fact.
but he can also block, parry if he doesn't want to be hit with him even saying it out his own mouth:
shown here,
Dodged Izana merely through outspeeding and not skills which is not going to happen here.
Mikey again uses his speed advantage and not his dodging skills.
and
herehttps://imgur.com/gallery/aD6RYIp
"(this especially is far above anything Dazai has shown)".
That crap's apparently very normal in BSD, dodging attacks of opponents much weaker or comparable to you is nothing when you are dodging attacks of a much faster character.
This is the only martial arts Dazai has used which was a
handspring Kick, which Mikey likely can use as well before
Never got any feats of Mikey pulling such acrobatics off but ok.
Ok.
Dazai also taught Atsushi for 4 and half years, and has a relentless spartan fighting style which I already provided scans for before.
As mentioned before a multitude of times before Dazai's analytical prediction is limited to his prior knowledge of his opponents.
Shown here, he mentions he can read all of Chuuya's attacks specifically because he was his partner and knew him a long time.
It isn't like that lol, against Chuuya is a much different thing because Chuuya's a much faster opponent than Dazai.
Dazai doesn't dodge Akutagawa because he knows him from a start, in fact, he's dodging Akutagawa from the start.
On top of being the far superior hand to hand fighter Mikey is much more physically stronger character.
As shown in Dazai's fight with Chuuya when after dodging the attacks he could read from his prior knowledge of him, he grabbed his wrist. Which would be a bad idea in an equalized random encounter fight with Mikey since Dazai does not know how strong Mikey
No lol, I never realized this was what you were debating on. Dazai only grabbed Chuuya to attack him simultaneously in background, so I don't know what you mean here when it's pretty clear.
Definitely when Mikey is much faster than Dazai which he isn't.
Same thing as before.
then mounted and beaten to death with ground and pound which has resulted in Mikey
killing South and
Kazutora, and
putting Takemichi into a 3 day coma.
The same thing gets done by Dazai when he restrains through NLH.
Meaning the same would happen to Dazai who doesnt have the strength to remove Mikey's arm to free himself
He will just punch him in the abdomen like he does most of the time which is a safe assumption aside from Dazai grabbing since that happening is indeed rare, not having enough strength doesn't mean anything here.
or the supernatural willpower to outlast the beating. Resulting in his death.
Resistance to Pain for some time says hi.
Whoever's IQ being batter does not matter when the physical difference is so wide,
It isn't bro, stop pretending like it is. You can defeat a leopard with some good techniques and even kill it even though a leopard definitely has higher AP than you.
Chuuya scales higher than him. Dazai's AP is through the people who can harm and if he can harm them in return. Stop downplaying Chuuya, he's casually better than the entire Port Mafia without skills.
meaning Mikey would do it on a much higher scale. 2 Dazai attempted to buff Dazai's vague martial arts history by using other characters feats when he is below average himself which should already tell you who actually wins the hand to hand fight.
He's not below average in technique, his skill NLH is described as below average and I already addressed it. If that's the only reason you downgrade him, then no.
No Longer Human is not a factor either in this fight for a number of reasons.
1.) Mikey doesn't need it to win having such a physical advantage.
Ok, but the NLH restrain is bad thing for Mikey already.
2.) Dazai's analytical prediction won't work on him being limited to prior knowledge based opponents and preparation and him
not even winning the fight he uses it in
Only if you didn't terminate the scan there and read the chapter further.
3.) There was also incorrect factors for the ability used that dont even apply. NLH does not negate or nullify physical attacks.
It does, for the first attack, were you literally missing everything we discussed because I am pretty sure you did.
Dazai does not have the invulnerability ability. It also does not "stun" opponents when used which is why Dazai does not have Paralysis Inducement,
It's not paralysis inducement, it's just a restrain, and it surely helps him lol.
Yes, he can nullify skills.
They aren't mindless, they are both able to be strategic until Atsushi and Atsushi alone transforms into an entire beast. But let's leave it, this argument is half-cooked.
Exactly, they are restrained so of course no, thanks for just proving me correct.
He just used NLH to nullify another skill what are you even cooking bro?
He literally didn't attack him but waited for Chuuya to do so, that is, if you read the next pages.
Stun is not the correct word, restrain from attacks is.
There is alot of misinformation in this thread and the creator refuses to acknowledge it or make the necessary changes including the martial arts advantage Mikey has, and the overall hand to hand advantage.
Does Mikey have any relentless spartan training like Dazai? Does he have outright better bodily kinesthetic than Dazai? So no, the OP is very correct here.
For someone who has accused me of downplaying Dazai you have downplayed Mikey far more, even insulted his character multiple times. Its not that serious.
I am just making fun of a fictional character
but ok I apologize (no).
The official vote count should be 5-0 until you guys do the same thing I just did with scans proving every thing you state.
You literally missed a lot of stuff and did nothing, nice effort you put there though.
. So, let's run it.
