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Madness Combat Discussion Thread: Redeemer

Comiphorous said:
Several problems.

  • Sanford's skill does not scale to Tricky or The Auditor (crackpot is fine though, he's lowkey a jobber). at best you can get him to downscale his skill from Hank's. plus a genius rating is completely wrong aswell, Gifted is fine though.
  • The P&A section is messy. i'd put a scroll box in there.
  • Analytical Prediction is just plain wrong. fighting hank doesn't grant that.
  • the 2nd note in his intelligence section is unneeded.
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Okay, I will change it later. Thanks!
 
Hank_J._Wimbleton_69 said:
Not to mention that MC12 will be more than one parts (think like MC9.5) according to Krinkels himself. This is of course not even speaking about that they will gonna make an another entire game, too. Krinkels propably going to have grandnieces or something in the time he finishes the series
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MC 12 is going to be one whole episode. Might be the longest MC ep so far.
 
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Ulthane

Ulthane and War's first conversation[1] Ulthane is a side character within Darksiders and Darksiders III Ulthane is a maker, an Old One older than any Angel or Demon, and the race that laid the foundations for every world in creation.[2] While Ulthane remained in the forgelands for most of his...
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daily reminder that Darksiders' lowest tiers is still above Gestalt!
 
DaReaperMan said:
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Ulthane

Ulthane and War's first conversation[1] Ulthane is a side character within Darksiders and Darksiders III Ulthane is a maker, an Old One older than any Angel or Demon, and the race that laid the foundations for every world in creation.[2] While Ulthane remained in the forgelands for most of his...
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daily reminder that Darksiders' lowest tiers is still above Gestalt!
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Erm... actually!!!!!11 Gestalt is 2-C!!!!!!!!!! i win this battle of fictional characters............
 
Employe said:
Well, I tried to give solid justification for this rating
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i have to look past Deimos saying nothing but stupid shit the entire game for me to understand any rating higher than above average.

i am neutral about it, i don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities. idk what others think of Genius Deimos though.
 
Comiphorous said:
i have to look past Deimos saying nothing but stupid shit the entire game for me to understand any rating higher than above average.

i am neutral about it, i don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities. idk what others think of Genius Deimos though.
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Above Average is way to downplay, him saying stupid thing does not covers actual showing
 
Employe said:
Above Average is way to downplay, him saying stupid thing does not covers actual showing
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true. but at best i'd give him Gifted. neither his combat nor hacking feats are genius level imo.

the only people in the verse would should really be getting genius ratings and above are The Maker and the Machine, Arena Mode Player, Jebediah, Tricky, The Auditor, Phobos, and rlly people intellectually comparable to those guys. (you could argue 2BDamned could get Genius intelligence, but i'd personally only give him a possibly rating for that)
 
Comiphorous said:
true. but at best i'd give him Gifted. neither his combat nor hacking feats are genius level imo.

the only people in the verse would should really be getting genius ratings are The Maker and the Machine, Arena Mode Player, Jebediah, Tricky, The Auditor, and Phobos (you could argue 2BDamned could get Genius intelligence, but i'd personally only give him a possibly rating for that)
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The Auditor does not deserved this rating, imo. I would say Gifted at max (Krinkels himself calls hims idiot, btw)

Doc, on another hand, can be easily argued on Extraordinary one, he has many skill and intelligence showings (Which I would depict later) and even was somehow more intelligent than Christoff in their dialogue

I do not remember anything from Arena dude to be even Gifted, let alone Genius (I ready to listen arguments, though). At best I can argue him being Genius or perhaps Extraordinary Genius in Combat

The Maker and The Machine better to be just Nigh-Omniscient (As Krinkels said about them), unless you want to separate Knowledged from Intelligence, then fair
 
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Employe said:
Yes, I now doing Auditor https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Employe/The_Auditor
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desummoning his own weapon isn't existence erasure.

for the nevadean physiology stuff, just list it as 'employer', the physiology page will already make the different known that employers have different abilities according to their avatar and true form.

a flat class M rating makes more sense. he fights and goes toe-to-toe with mag hank, who scales to the Class M.

you should very much list the tier 1 stuff on auditor's page, since Phobos scales to the employers, not the other way around.
 
Comiphorous said:
desummoning his own weapon isn't existence erasure.
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BFR, I guess?
Comiphorous said:
for the nevadean physiology stuff, just list it as 'employer', the physiology page will already make the different known that employers have different abilities according to their avatar and true form.
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I honestly dislike whole idea of employers having their section of Physiology page. In my opinion it is looks confusing and adds more mess, since here only 4 Employers and we don't even know almost anything about other 3, and I would prefer every Auditor's ability being on single page
 
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Also the reason of Tier 1 stuff it is due to Tricky describing The Other Place as "Infinitely More Complex than normal mind can comprehend" > Phobos absorbs it = Employers
 
Employe said:
I honestly dislike whole idea of employers having their section of Physiology page. In my opinion it is looks confusing and adds more mess, since here only 4 Employers and we don't even know almost anything about other 3, and I would prefer every Auditor's ability being on single page
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that CRT is dead anyways, and i rlly don't care at this point. we can probably redo the physiology page again and make it less ass then i did.
 
Sinpokefan said:
btw can't we use this to confirm that Hank>Semi mags in therms of strenght?
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Sinpokefan said:
btw can't we use this to confirm that Hank>Semi mags in therms of strenght?
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No

1. This animation is non-canon


2. In one of Krinkels' twithc streams a part of MC12 is that Sanford getting pretty easily overpowered by a half mag.



Even if Hank was above semi mags in strength... what this proves at all? Semi mags only feats are cracking stronge walls and throwing Deimos around. They don't have any impressive showing, at least i don't recall any.
 
Hank_J._Wimbleton_69 said:
No

1. This animation is non-canon


2. In one of Krinkels' twithc streams a part of MC12 is that Sanford getting pretty easily overpowered by a half mag.



Even if Hank was above semi mags in strength... what this proves at all? Semi mags only feats are cracking stronge walls and throwing Deimos around. They don't have any impressive showing, at least i don't recall any.
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Should be comparable to G03LM who can lift mining trucks (something that was calculated at Class 100 if I'm not wrong)
 
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