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Madness Combat Discussion Thread: Redeemer

Employe said:
Here actually also feat of Bandit busting gates (While weakened), which was also calculated to 8-C

Also Tricky sliced big chunk of the Ground in MC 5

Also Protagonists tanked solid Building-sized explosion in the start of the games
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Wasn't the tricky borrowing through the ground high 8-C? Also we gotta need these feats on the page of the characters plus the building sized explosion might need a calc
 
Employe said:
Here actually also feat of Bandit busting gates (While weakened), which was also calculated to 8-C

Also Tricky sliced big chunk of the Ground in MC 5

Also Protagonists tanked solid Building-sized explosion in the start of the games
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Tricky slicing some stone isn't 8-C (that calc was wrong)



We don't know how big that explosion was because we didn't see it. That explosion didn't doa nything other than damage a truck and put some (admittedly large) cravks on asfalt road. And it heavily injured Deimos.
 
Vyfourthaccount said:
Guess he's wall physically with small building level guns since he can harm jebus with them? Or he just have 9-A dura?
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Personally I ABSOLUTELLY don't agree with firearms scaling to Jeb thing. Piercing damage is incredibly nonsensical and inconsistent in fiction. We regularly see Hank shooting fodder with his own firearms and damage done by them is no greater than the ones when fodder accidently shoot each other. Spiderman and Wonder Woman can fight with bulletproof characters and they theirselves have feats that are much more powerfull than any bullet yet they get damage by bullets. Hank in MC9.5 deformed bullet ressistant masks multiple times with hid bare fists without injuring himself yet when he gets shot by bulelts they punch holes on him in the same way they punch holes on regular grunts despite Hank both by feats and accepted tier being much more durable then them. In MC11 Mag Hank punched apart a mask that shown to take zero damage from bullets yet when those bullets hit him he gets damage. Mag agents normally aren't that much tougher than main characters yet when it comes to bullets they take even 50.cals to the face without even collapsing but even low claiber bullets punch holes on the skulls of main characters like they are made of wet paper when we see those same characters keeping up with mag agents where if we would go by bullet damage logic they really shouldn't be able to. There is hundreds of instances of MC bullets hitting concrete and steel and they don't anymore dmaage to them than irl 9-C firearms do.
 
Hank_J._Wimbleton_69 said:
Tricky slicing some stone isn't 8-C (that calc was wrong)



We don't know how big that explosion was because we didn't see it. That explosion didn't doa nything other than damage a truck and put some (admittedly large) cravks on asfalt road. And it heavily injured Deimos.
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Kinetic energy, someone should recalc it

Actually, we can see explosion which is at worst equal to truck's size
We didn't saw explosion but we can see consequences and assume size


Also it is literally turned big truck into fire junk or did you expected to it getting reduced to atoms? Deimos thing it is truly weird, but still both Sanford and Hank non-selling it > single Deimos being injured (Which you also can argue as just unfortunate landing)
 
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Employe said:
Kinetic energy, someone should recalc it

We didn't saw explosion but we can see consequences and assume size

Also it is literally turned big truck into fire junk or did you expected to it getting reduced to atoms? Deimos thing it is truly weird, but still both Sanford and Hank non-selling it > single Deimos being injured (Which you also can argue as just unfortunate landing)
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A 8-C explosion would do way more damage to concrete and truck than that


Hank didn't tank shit. When game shows us the burning truck and injured Deimos Hank lands to the gorund from somewhere. The only one who possibly tanked is Sanford. MC isn't consistently 8-C, there is like 2 feats with one of them being from an explosive weapon that no character interacted in canon and kills even top tiers if we count incidents.
 
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Hank didn't tank shit. When game shows us the burning truck and injured Deimos Hank lands to the gorund from somewhere. The only one eho possibly tanked is Sanford. MC isn't consistently 8-C, there is like 2 feats one of them being from an explosive weapon that no character interacted in canon and kills even top tiers if we count incidents

A 8-C explosion would do way more damage to concrete and truck than that


The moment with him jumping from air looks more like game error, unless you gonna to say that Hank somehow flew high into air and then accurately landed into exact place where was truck (And Sanford Too)

And under "Kills even Top-Tiers" you meant Abstract Universal and Non-physical Entity? Or Gestalt, who tanks 8-B explosions and then grows stronger?
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I doubt it was a game error. Krinkels and Swain could easily fix it if it was a small error. In old versions of MPN (pre-steam release i mean, you can find extremelly old videos) in that scene instead of Hank landing to ground you had him appearing from inside of the truck.
 
Hank_J._Wimbleton_69 said:
Personally I ABSOLUTELLY don't agree with firearms scaling to Jeb thing. Piercing damage is incredibly nonsensical and inconsistent in fiction. We regularly see Hank shooting fodder with his own firearms and damage done by them is no greater than the ones when fodder accidently shoot each other. Spiderman and Wonder Woman can fight with bulletproof characters and they theirselves have feats that are much more powerfull than any bullet yet they get damage by bullets. Hank in MC9.5 deformed bullet ressistant masks multiple times with hid bare fists without injuring himself yet when he gets shot by bulelts they punch holes on him in the same way they punch holes on regular grunts despite Hank both by feats and accepted tier being much more durable then them. In MC11 Mag Hank punched apart a mask that shown to take zero damage from bullets yet when those bullets hit him he gets damage. Mag agents normally aren't that much tougher than main characters yet when it comes to bullets they take even 50.cals to the face without even collapsing but even low claiber bullets punch holes on the skulls of main characters like they are made of wet paper when we see those same characters keeping up with mag agents where if we would go by bullet damage logic they really shouldn't be able to. There is hundreds of instances of MC bullets hitting concrete and steel and they don't anymore dmaage to them than irl 9-C firearms do.
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fair enough
 
SJG13673 said:
Holy hell MadCom profiles look outdated and unfinished, is it how they should look?
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the only ones that are up to date are like, 4 at most lmao.

Sheriff's profile has a CRT up for his to get reworked, but it lowkey just doesn't have any staff that'll have it go through.
 
Not to mention that MC12 will be more than one parts (think like MC9.5) according to Krinkels himself. This is of course not even speaking about that they will gonna make an another entire game, too. Krinkels propably going to have grandnieces or something in the time he finishes the series
 
Employe said:
vsbattles.fandom.com

Sanford

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Slowly doing it with other profiles
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Several problems.

  • Sanford's skill does not scale to Tricky or The Auditor (crackpot is fine though, he's lowkey a jobber). at best you can get him to downscale his skill from Hank's. plus a genius rating is completely wrong aswell, Gifted is fine though.
  • The P&A section is messy. i'd put a scroll box in there.
  • Analytical Prediction is just plain wrong. fighting hank doesn't grant that.
  • the 2nd note in his intelligence section is unneeded.
 
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