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Madness Combat Discussion Thread: Redeemer
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Oh yeah. Wonder how will krinkels make canon the steam workshop. (Knowing him and Swain it is very likely.
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This thread is surprisingly active and you guys are definitely cooking someting up
But a lot of what you've proposed hasn't been applied yet. What's up with that ?
But a lot of what you've proposed hasn't been applied yet. What's up with that ?
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My own laziness, and distance from this site, that, and my own CRT that i've had going hasn't been accepted yet either.
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Same
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Getting too silly. Madness Combat Upgrade.
Yeah, i got tired of waiting on my ass waiting for my other CRT to go through, so here's this! the thing everyone has been waiting for; The complete tier overhaul for the entire verse! Building level shenanigans All of the following characters will be upgraded to Building level due to this...
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Currently remaking his profiles https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Employe/Doc_(Madness_Combat)
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Btw upgrate to .33 Tons possibly .67 Tons
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I also think that we should do the whole mag Hank thing of being a five times upgrate
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Wait, what is explosion? Can you show feat
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Yeah realized I didn't put the link, now is done and is the explosion of the end of arena mode.
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What timeframe?
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It's in the blog
Hank_J._Wimbleton_69
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There is no evidence of main characters scaling to arena mode protagonist. This is fine if there will gonna be a page for MPN2 arena mode guy but i don't think this really applies to likes of Hank
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Don't see why not since they fight the same enemies (save N51 and those the machines avatar(
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Since i finally got the verse upgraded to 8-C, it's time to revamp the profiles that really need it.
The Auditor
Sheriff
Jebediah
Sanford
Deimos
Agency Against Hank Wimbleton
2BDamned
The Maker
The Machine
MPN2 Arena Mode player
The Hive (Nexus CORE Boss)
Church and Jorge + a team page for them
Dr. Crackpot
Ghoul
Victor (Co-op exclusive character that works with Sanford and Deimos when theres more than 2 players, he has his own backstory involving burger gil, therefore he should be viable for a profile.)
Hank P. Wimbleton (????? not sure this guy counts, he's another Co-op exclusive character, however unlike Victor, isn't present as an existing character beyond co-op missions. might not be able to get a profile.)
Profiles that need reworking:
The Auditor
Sheriff
Jebediah
Sanford
Deimos
Agency Against Hank Wimbleton
2BDamned
Profiles that need to be created:
The Maker
The Machine
MPN2 Arena Mode player
The Hive (Nexus CORE Boss)
Church and Jorge + a team page for them
Dr. Crackpot
Ghoul
Victor (Co-op exclusive character that works with Sanford and Deimos when theres more than 2 players, he has his own backstory involving burger gil, therefore he should be viable for a profile.)
Hank P. Wimbleton (????? not sure this guy counts, he's another Co-op exclusive character, however unlike Victor, isn't present as an existing character beyond co-op missions. might not be able to get a profile.)
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Has crackpot ever used a tac bar? it's been a while since i fought him. (the video you put on the profile doesn't show him using it)
besides him being 8-C+ instead of flat 8-C, looks fine. Characters scale to Hypersonic+ flat though, so it's not just reactions.
Alsoalso, Deimos and Sanford's LS are going to scale to At least Class 5, Possibly Class 50, as theres no reason to suggest they're fully comparable to hank. so Crackpot should scale the same way.
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Yes, you can see blue-colored bar under him in this video
Also here page for Doc https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Employe/Doc_(Madness_Combat)
I still currently making this
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ok
9-A 2BDamned makes sense.
It should be noted he has 8-B C4s, as the ones Sanford and Deimos had were able to kill Gestalt at it's peak, and he should have access to those.
Sanford, Deimos, and 2BDamned are the only people who will get a 8-B rating from Gestalt.
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8-C actually, not 9-A. Also I guess you can scale him to 0.87 tons with his car as he killed 3 Vampire Bruisers (Who are even stronger then main heroes) at once with car
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You profile says he scales to ATP agents (the only thing he can possibly scale to) which is 9-A. you could scale him to 8-C with weaponry and his car, but unless you have something else they could scale to, i don't see how he's 8-C.
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I just undone this part, he supposed to be only 9-C physically on this profile and ups to 8-C with weapons and vech. He would be corrected into being physically 9-A later
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Also I planning to do profile for Gambler
Despite appearing to be non-combat person, he still has a lot of interesting stuff
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I think for durability "At least street level, At least Buiding level+ with the car (or building level) with vehicles" would be a good idea. In Arena Mode Doc uses his car to One shot 3 vampires at once. The vampire enemies he killed there are not standart fodder but rather nearly half-mag sized ones that have far better stats than most enemies in the game and can do charge attacks like AAHW half mags do
Yeah, no. Those stats are not consistent with what's shown on screen. According to it Mag Hank's intelligence downgraded to 1/3 despite the fact that you have him using pipe bombs and being obviously more tactical than him as his baseself ever been in any episode. In one of the episodes according to Auditor's computer an agent has strength value of "8", which is roughly same as base Hank's according to the stats in magnification chamber, which doesn't make sense because in animations we always see Hank effortlessly overpwering agents, throwing them around, or multilating them with just his bare hands. Also if we accept five times stats thing than that means you either gonna upgrade Hank's LS by a massive margin or downgrade Mag Hank and top tiers' LS by a massive margin.
That doesn't mean arena mode guy is limited to those enemies. Hank never fought with avatar of machine and there is no evidence of them scaling.
He does
Where does the 8-C+ value come from? The grenade thing and Jesus surviving one? I don't agree with this honestly. Meanwhile Jesus "survived" explosives each time he took them the first one almost killed him and the second one knocked him out. I would propably survive a punch from Mike Tyson but that doesn't mean i have 9-C durability/i fully scale to it.
The hypersonic calc includes movement speed? I thought it was for reactions/combat
There are like two different statements by Krinkels about Sanford being comparable to base Hank. In addition to that in M
N (steam) he has almost same exact strength value as Hank. I agree for Deimos though, in fact Krinkels has said Sanford would easily beat Deimos in an outwrestleYeah, i don't agree with this. The explosives was able to damage Gestalt only after the dissonance explosion happened. The whole thing of divergence engine was rendering Gestalt vulnerable so that main characters could be able to damage him. Without it even in his weakest key of his first apereance in MPN you can't do jack againist him with any kind of weapon
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Don't know where the 8-C+ stuff comes from. all i know is that we have a 0.29 tons 8-C calc, which everyone scales to.
yeah. hank was point blank and was able to physically move and block it after it was fired pretty sure. if im wrong, could always fix it in a CRT.
fair nough.There are like two different statements by Krinkels about Sanford being comparable to base Hank. In addition to that in M
Fair nough.
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That's literally what i was saying about
It is barely did any real damage to him, though. He just was knocked out but otherwise feel himself fine and didn't received any visible wounds
Also isn't Gestalt tanked explosion after he got weakened??
Hank_J._Wimbleton_69
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Fair enough, i now read that part of your comment.
The on in MC8 clearly heavily injured him, although i guess you can argue that he was heavily weakened from Auditor's virus. THe one in MPN not onyl knocked him out but it also make visible amount of blood from him. I think the 8-C+ rating is honestly iffy given that we're scaling Jeb to something he can't casually take
The Gestalt part is weird. The small lasers coming from divergence engine makes him vulnerable but it only lasts temporary amount of time. Whatever, after the giant dissonance explosion happened Gestalt became fully vulnerable for permanently instead of fully.
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oh right, Gestalt's page has a minor problem idk if anyone wants to fix, since i don't have the time as of right now.
Currently, his 2-C links were deleted off imgur. if anyone could get them and replace the broken links with new ones, that'd be cool.
Currently, his 2-C links were deleted off imgur. if anyone could get them and replace the broken links with new ones, that'd be cool.
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someone should calculate how fast Deity Tricky was in this scene here when he dodged the shotgun blast from Sanford.
idk. probably won't come out to anything substantial, but im curious if it'd give us anything better than our current hypersonic+ rating.
idk. probably won't come out to anything substantial, but im curious if it'd give us anything better than our current hypersonic+ rating.
Hank_J._Wimbleton_69
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He aim-dodged it. Eyeballing, you would get results ranging from subsonic to supersonic depending on which frame you use (bullets in Madness Combat animations generally travels much more distance in their sevond and third frame compared to their first frame)
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sheriff
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Sheriff's current rework. finally seperating his MC 1-3 and Project Nexus appearances to two different keys, as they should've been from the beginning. I'm gonna have to replay some missions in Project Nexus that Sheriff appears in, since i don't remember much about his presence beyond his boss fight.
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Ew, you didn't reference his quote and every little thing in his summary and gender and all of his stats!sheriff
Sheriff's current rework. finally seperating his MC 1-3 and Project Nexus appearances to two different keys, as they should've been from the beginning. I'm gonna have to replay some missions in Project Nexus that Sheriff appears in, since i don't remember much about his presence beyond his boss fight.
(Jokes aside-- that intelligence section needs a damn rework lol)
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Yeah. he deserves Gifted at least in his second key.
I think im fine with him being Average to Above Average in his MC 1-3 key. he had at least shown he can run the AAHW, but most of his accomplishments as the leader of the AAHW were set up for him and just took the credit. at least his intelligence improved since he got resurrected.
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Why he has Imms Types 4 and 8 if it is already on Physiology page?
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