Madara Uchiha VS Satoru Gojo

[PrinceofPein]

Genjutsu does travel, it still needs a medium and unless it's stated to lack a travel distance then we don't assume as much. They do still need to inject chakra into the brain or the nervous system of the opponent, which would be impossible when your opponents entire body is hidden and shielded by infinite space.


I.E Genjutsu still needs to somehow enter Gojo's body to implant chakra, which it can't do due to Gojo's body being protected by infinite space.

Again with SBA = Gojo already has chakra in his braing GG
withiut SBA = Gojo cannot block chakra has he does not know what it is and his infinity cannot pick it up naturally so still GG and this is the first time i am hearing genjutsu trave it is hilarious

lol gojo can send infinite information inside ur brain. tsukuyomi cant even compare to gojo domain. gojo choose 6 month information in Shibuya because human only can support 6 month information but need to rest 2 months. gojo stated "this level of domain,special grade can wake up any moment" while he make it infinite information when fighting jogo

Uhhm no this is your iwb head cannon gojo did not choose anything he said 0.2 sec in his domain is worth half a year info, any other thing is head canon and i will need to see the scans

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

https://cdn.*****************.com/file/mangap/2085/10015000/15.jpg

 

[mal]

and genjutsu still need eye contact. madara need eye contact to put raikage and shinobi in genjutsu. sasuke with blonde raikage bodyguard. itachi can use his finger but u still need to see it. guy said dont make eye contact with uchiha when fighting. idk why ppl said it dont need eye contact. only koto and IT doesnt need eye contact from what we have seen

 

[LordGinSama]

Again with SBA = Gojo already has chakra in his braing GG

Learn how to read, you literally posted the SBA line yourself without realizing the amount of contradiction you spew. SBA equalizes similar energy, CE and Chakra are not similar. SBA doesn't equalize two totally different types of energy.

withiut SBA = Gojo cannot block chakra has he does not know what it is and his infinity cannot pick it up naturally so still GG and this is the first time i am hearing genjutsu trave it is hilarious

Genjutsu literally works by injecting Chakra into the mind, it does indeed travel from Point A to point B albeit via different mediums.


Stop calling other people's arguments headcanon whenever the only person using any sort of headcanon is you. Literally what in the world?

Ignoring Manga statements and context
yet we're using headcanon

Okay lmfao. Anyway I'm done arguing with you, and given the fact that nobody is siding with you should speak volumes for itself.

 

[mal]

Again with SBA = Gojo already has chakra in his braing GG
withiut SBA = Gojo cannot block chakra has he does not know what it is and his infinity cannot pick it up naturally so still GG and this is the first time i am hearing genjutsu trave it is hilarious

Uhhm no this is your iwb head cannon gojo did not choose anything he said 0.2 sec in his domain is worth half a year info, any other thing is head canon and i will need to see the scans

go read the scan u send. gojo literally said "this level of domain,special grade can wake up any moment" smh

 

[PrinceofPein]

https://cdn.*****************.com/file/mangap/2085/10015000/15.jpg

yes of course it is forced upon you infinitely/repeatedly sure but it is still half a year worth in 0.2 sec according to gojo.
let me help you understand better, half a year worth of info will be forced upon you every 0.2 sec infinitely.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Learn how to read, you literally posted the SBA line yourself without realizing the amount of contradiction you spew. SBA equalizes similar energy, CE and Chakra are not similar. SBA doesn't equalize two totally different types of energy.

like i said with or without SBA genjutsu GG, without it Gojo infinity cannot stop chakra, with SBA gojo already has chakra and again GG

Genjutsu literally works by injecting Chakra into the mind, it does indeed travel from Point A to point B albeit via different mediums.

That is for people without chakra, if you have chakra it is simply manipulating existing chakra

Stop calling other people's arguments headcanon whenever the only person using any sort of headcanon is you. Literally what in the world?

except it is head canon

Okay lmfao. Anyway I'm done arguing with you, and given the fact that nobody is siding with you should speak volumes for itself.

yeah does not matter, does not mean i am wrong

go read the scan u send. gojo literally said "this level of domain,special grade can wake up any moment" smh

yeah it means they can survive longer than 0.2 sec in his domain

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

yes of course it is forced upon you infinitely/repeatedly sure but it is still half a year worth in 0.2 sec according to gojo.
let me help you understand better, half a year worth of info will be forced upon you every 0.2 sec infinitely.

no, the 0.2 is half a years worth of information forced on the brain which he calculated to be about the only thing normal humans could survive

u really trying to equate the full thing which can basically kill special grades to a water down version he created to make sure humans did not die

 

[PrinceofPein]

no, the 0.2 is half a years worth of information forced on the brain which he calculated to be about the only thing normal humans could survive

u really trying to equate the full thing which can basically kill special grades to a water down version he created to make sure humans did not die on them

of course it kills special grade cause they spend way more than 0.2 sec in it, as he also said 0.2 sec in his domain is not enought to kill special grade and they will get back up

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

also to get my vote counted: Gojo FRA


9 for madara

13 for gojo

 

[LordGinSama]

The reading compression on some people is utterly baffling, SBA would not give Gojo chakra. SBA does not work like that, Chakra is only given to those who have energy that would be similar to that of Chakra.


Infinity blocks by creating infinite space between him and the opponent, Chakra isn't getting past his Infinity.

no, the 0.2 is half a years worth of information forced on the brain which he calculated to be about the only thing normal humans could survive

u really trying to equate the full thing which can basically kill special grades to a water down version he created to make sure humans did not die

Ignore him, if he wants to be purposely ignorant for the clear bias he has for Naruto (as seen in several instances, it's glaring to anyone.) then let him.

 

[PrinceofPein]

SBA would not give Gojo chakra. SBA does not work like that, Chakra is only given to those who have energy that would be similar to that of Chakra.

and without equalising energies he is not blocking out chakra

Infinity blocks by creating infinite space between him and the opponent, Chakra isn't getting past his Infinity.

uhhm no, gojo needs to select things that gets past is infinity before hand like he explained unless he has miraculously selected chakra before, then NO

 

[mal]

like i said with or without SBA genjutsu GG, without it Gojo infinity cannot stop chakra, with SBA gojo already has chakra and again GG

That is for people without chakra, if you have chakra it is simply manipulating existing chakra

except it is head canon

yeah does not matter, does not mean i am wrong

yeah it means they can survive longer than 0.2 sec in his domain

he used it because theres human in there. go read the whole jjk manga again. the reason why they fight in crowded place so gojo cant freely use his domain.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Ignore him, if he wants to be purposely ignorant for the clear bias he has for Naruto (as seen in several instances, it's glaring to anyone.) then let him

this is a joke i have a bias for Naruto cause as you now gojo cannot counter genjutsu?? lol. but you are also not bias towards JJK, takes two to tango man

 

[PrinceofPein]

he used it because theres human in there. go read the whole jjk manga again. the reason why they fight in crowded place so gojo cant freely use his domain.

i read the whole JJK manga twice, and again he said it humans can only spend 0.2 sec in his domain and that is half a year worth so he will open it for 0.2 sec, so yes thats what happened there and how we got amount of info his domain forces on people

 

[LordGinSama]

Hmm yeah like I said, painfully ignorant like someone with the mentally of a child. Anyway I said I was ignoring you, so kindly stop replying to my shit. Really don't see the point in arguing with what is essentially an arrogant brick wall.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

and without equalising energies he is not blocking out chakra

uhhm no, gojo needs to select things that gets past is infinity before hand like he explained unless he has miraculously selected chakra before, then NO

before he had to actively select the stuff, now he does not, the infinity is automatically active and cancels all the stuff, all gojo needs to do is supply the energy for the infinity

 

[PrinceofPein]

Hmm yeah like I said, painfully ignorant like someone with the mentally of a child. Anyway I said I was ignoring you, so kindly stop replying to my shit. Really don't see the point in arguing with what is essentially an arrogant brick wall.

Again with the insults? someone does not agree with you and boom you cannot not think of anything other than call them names? get some help

before he had to actively select the stuff, now he does not, the infinity is automatically active and cancels all the stuff, all gojo needs to do is supply the energy for the infinity

yes now he selects it base on type, mass and speed, so you are telling me he already selected the mass, type and speed chakra travel?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I know nothing about Jujutsu Kaisen

 

[LordGinSama]

Not an insult, being ignorant isn't an insult. You're either overly sensitive, or again you lack an understanding of what an insult means. Which wouldn't surprise me either at this point, but again, stop replying to my comments. Not sure how many times I need to tell you not to cluster up my notifications with your mindless bickering.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Not an insult, being ignorant isn't an insult. You're either overly sensitive, or again you lack an understanding of what an insult means. Which wouldn't surprise me either at this point, but again, stop replying to my comments. Not sure how many times I need to tell you not to cluster up my notifications with your mindless bickering.

Really it was an arguments we dont see each other points thats what happens sometimes get over it

Edit: Nice DP

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Not an insult, being ignorant isn't an insult. You're either overly sensitive, or again you lack an understanding of what an insult means. Which wouldn't surprise me either at this point, but again, stop replying to my comments. Not sure how many times I need to tell you not to cluster up my notifications with your mindless bickering.

That confused the f out of me... I was like... I don't remember pain typing like this? Did she improve or something

 

[SemiRaedi]

Pain how about you go and ask a large amount of people knowledgeable on jjk and see whether your interpretation is correct or not and then see what happens? If you don't want to believe us then try confirming your beliefs with others who aren't involved in this match.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Pain how about you go and ask a large amount of people knowledgeable on jjk and see whether your interpretation is correct or not and then see what happens? If you don't want to believe us then try confirming your beliefs with others who aren't involved in this match.

I am knowledgeable, and I asked myself and yes it is still the same thing, the scans also says the same thing.
"0.2 sec in immeasurable void is half a year worth of info"

 

[SemiRaedi]

I know your knowledgeable but it's always good to confirm with several people right?

If everyone so far disagrees with you while you think your correct then it's best to get an outside/unbiased opinion to get a more clear response since it's clear that you aren't going to agree with what we're saying.

 

[PrinceofPein]

I know your knowledgeable but it's always good to confirm with several people right?

If everyone so far disagrees with you while you think your correct then it's best to get an outside/unbiased opinion to get a more clear response since it's clear that you aren't going to agree with what we're saying.

oh really you want a list of those who agree with me?? have u ever thought that u are the one who is wrong?

Nope, i have no idea why Unlimited Void would put infinite info inside the target:

1. He expanded his domain for a fraction of time, a fraction of infinite should still be infinite, this is already against it being infinite information
2. Jogo uses "never ending" to describe the amount of information and Gojo himself says it is being forced "repeatedly".

Even the "watered down" is only ever stated to be different in the duration not the info (it even has the exact same name and activation), it's stated that the amount of info (6 months) and the timeframe (0,2s) are a a intuitive guess/rough estimative, meaning it comes from the understanding of his own domain and isn't a set rule of the "watered down version".

It's explained that 0.2 is half a year, I am not arguing on it, here is a scan.

AND AGAIN ACCORDING TO THE PAGES MADARA RESISTS GOJO DOMAIN

 

[SemiRaedi]

oh really you want a list of those who agree with me?? have u ever thought that u are the one who is wrong?

Maybe tag some jjk supporters who agree or something? We keep showing our arguments for why you're wrong while you keep showing your arguments for why we're wrong therefore you would need to bring in a third party that's knowledgeable since you aren't backing down and neither are we

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Wouldn’t Genjutsu need to cross like an infinite distance to reach? I recall it literally sends chakra into your brain doesn’t it?

 

[PrinceofPein]

Maybe tag some jjk supporters who agree or something? We keep showing our arguments for why you're wrong while you keep showing your arguments for why we're wrong therefore you would need to bring in a third party that's knowledgeable since you aren't backing down and neither are we

i am not the only one who thinks you are wrong check my previous post on other knowledgeable members who thinks so too

 

[PrinceofPein]

Wouldn’t Genjutsu need to cross like an infinite distance to reach? I recall it literally sends chakra into your brain doesn’t it?

Nah, Gojo Infinity cannot pick up things he has not decided it to pick passively and seeing he has not seen chakra before or know what it is he wont be picking it up
and i think by SBA we are supposed to equalize energies

 

[SemiRaedi]

Mal agrees with me
Gin agrees with me
TOAA agrees with me
Monkey agrees with me

At this point you have to call a mod or the person who made the profile to clear things up since I doubt saying more people agree on one side will change anything.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Total count is:

9 for madara

13 for gojo

 

[SemiRaedi]

Forgot if I voted previously but if I didn't then Gojo FRA

 

[theultimate5105]

Again if Madara cannot effect Gojo it is a stomp

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Again if Madara cannot effect Gojo it is a stomp

call a mod to close it in that case.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Mal agrees with me
Gin agrees with me
TOAA agrees with me
Monkey agrees with me

At this point you have to call a mod or the person who made the profile to clear things up since I doubt saying more people agree on one side will change anything.

Slac and dragnoir agreees with me and monkey does not know shit about the verse

 

[SemiRaedi]

Slac and dragnoir agreees with me

Well then I will try to call in a mod or the creator of Gojo's page to clear it up

and monkey does not know shit about the verse

Lmao

 

[Shadyboi0]

Slac and dragnoir agreees with me and monkey does not know shit about the verse

Got room for me to agree?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Got room for me to agree?

u already counted on the 9 so is fine

 

[KarematsuShinjuu]

Don't really want to add more shit to this shitstorm but could Madara bait Domain Expansion using higher AP, use Izanagi once in and genjustu GG/seal Gojo? He should be able to survive for some time in domain as I think Itachi has feats of resisting information overload (not too sure on that one).

He probably won't use such stuff because in character, but there's a possible wincon
(Gojo probably won't see a need to expand his domain as he seems to only do it to counter domain expansion but here you go) for you guys who seem to think:

Madara wins instantly: GG all around boys.
Gojo wins instantly: stomp haxx close thread