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Luck VS. Laxus

Davidsteel1 said:
Are Luck's arms not covered in lightning? That's how he fights no? If yes, then Laxus resists those strikes, plus while he uses his mouth consuming an element for Dragon slayers is more akin to taking a deep breath, in other words Lucks boots and gloves which are made out of lightning will be sucked in.

Good Luck sucking someone who as soon as the match starts, speed amps and blitzes. And even if he is somehow able to eat his boots and gloves, that won't matter since he can recreate them which is quick and cost very little to no mana

And a few hits are all Laxus needs literally, he's significantly more powerful. On top of all that Lucks fear hax is based around his sinister appearance and overwhelming aura, Laxus has taken on everything from men to demons to dragons and took on Acnologia without flinching- a character so much more powerful than him it's almost hilarious so I don't think an elf that is objectively weaker than him will be cause for much fear. Acnologia doesn't have Fear Manip nor Overwhelming Aura. On top of that, overwhelming Aura in BC doesn't depends of your strength
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Also Idk about those "Lax needs a few hits" votes, we know he one shots but Luck blitzes and his strength drastically increases because of RPL and Rage Power.

Voting Luck
 
Also Idk about those "Lax needs a few hits" votes, we know he one shots but Luck blitzes and his strength drastically increases because of RPL and Rage Power.

Voting Luck

He stats amp only increase his lightning power, elf luck didn't shown to use physical attack(attacks without lightning) while he fightig asta who can null his attack. Increase strength didn't mean anything if you can't hurt your opponent
 
SpookyShadow said:
Any time you see actual mana around him? Have you ever seen a physical mage fighting without Reinforcement Magic?
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Luck isn't a physical type guy, luck didn't shown to use those ability, the best we can assume that he have mana skin at best
 
He stats amp only increase his lightning power, elf luck didn't shown to use physical attack(attacks without lightning) while he fightig asta who can null his attack. Increase strength didn't mean anything if you can't hurt your opponent

You are just trying to give false reason for luck win

So we really are gonna do this?

His stats amp increase his strength and his speed. And yes luck can hurt Lax we already explained that before. He blitzes Lax with Thunder God's Boots so I don't even know how Lax gonna hit him or absorb his electricity. Don't try to say I give false reason when I'm clearly not...

Also, if you think luck isn't the type of guy to go h2h and he never shown that, then you really need to rewatch the series before making assumptions.
 
How can Luck Blitz if Speed is equal? i get that he gets Amps, but the speed boost shouldn't make it impossible to hit Him
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
How can Luck Blitz if Speed is equal? i get that he gets Amps, but the speed boost shouldn't make it impossible to hit Him
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It does. With his speedboost, he blitzed an opponent that could keep up with him
 
Does anyone have scan for luck using any other type of attack other than lightning in character with the same level of ap as his lightning-based attack?
 
1997KD said:
Does anyone have scan for luck using any other type of attack other than lightning in character with the same level of ap as his lightning-based attack?
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I said he will go h2h, I never said he will stop using Thundergod
 
Laxus can eat lightning from a decent distance away so it's not like he has to be close to luck in order for him to eat his lightning based amps.
 
Also we know that Laxus can tank massive amounts of damage even while consuming magic like when he consumed a massive amount of magic barrier particles.
 
I said he will go h2h, I never said he will stop using Thundergod

Did it give same ap compared to his lightning attack?did he do it in in character because he didn't do it against asta who can null his magic attack
 
Zackra1799 said:
Laxus can eat lightning from a decent distance away so it's not like he has to be close to luck in order for him to eat his lightning based amps.
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How far? Also did he ever eat lightning behind him?
 
I still don't see how Luck can win this fight, even if he's outspeeding Laxus, Laxus can just eat all of his Lightning whether his projectiles or Armor, and Luck is fighting someone who scales 8.9x above him in terms of AP and Durability, while Luck Himself doesn't even fully scale to Licht's 1.45 Megaton Feat, Laxus can eat and resist all of his attacks and also can one-shot him when the battle begins due to AP difference, Laxus has pretty much an edge in everything except for maybe speed

Laxus takes this

Edit: Laxus also has superior stamina, he ate a sh*t ton of poison into his body and survived, plus he'll constantly be able to refill his stamina since he can eat Luck's Lightning
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
I still don't see how Luck can win this fight, even if he's outspeeding Laxus, Laxus can just eat all of his Lightning whether his projectiles or Armor, and Luck is fighting someone who scales 8.9x above him in terms of AP and Durability, while Luck Himself doesn't even fully scale to Licht's 1.45 Megaton Feat, Laxus can eat and resist all of his attacks and also can one-shot him when the battle begins due to AP difference, Laxus has pretty much an edge in everything except for maybe speed

Laxus takes this

Edit: Laxus alos has superior stamina, he ate a sh*t town of poison into his body and survived, plus he'll constantly be able to refill his stamina since he can eat Luck's Lightning
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Thundergod gloves boost Electric spells too. I don't see how he will be able to eat a projectile or even a danmaku too fast for him or Luck's Gloves/Boots if he can attack faster and from anywhere. Luck scales above Asta who's 1.45 Megatons, not Licht. As for Vetto he is above Fana who casually done that, let's not forget that Vetto were serious while fighting luck so he was possibly Low 7-B while fighting Luck. So the gap between Luck and Vetto is more than 4.8× and less than 73× while the gap between Luck and Lax is 8.9×

Also I don't think Lax has better stamina. Luck inhaled a good amount of particles that weakens him until he dies, not only he survived that, but he also grew stronger and quicker instead of being weakened. Also, let's not forget that he has a tremendous amount mana, as much as the Captains and using Thundergod gloves/boots cost little to no mana
 
Whatever, we've both made our arguments, we can stop now, people will vote now based on the arguments, no need to go around and around
 
Laxus fra. The Projectiles being faster as well is pretty inconsequential seeing as how

A. Laxus can still eat them from afar or close regardless

B. Laxus is still inherently resistant.

Also Laxus dealt with Anti Magic Particles that are supposed to near immediately kill someone for a year and even fought with them without a qualm for all but one fight. Luck's whole combat style is based around his Lightning Magic, even CQC with his Thundergod Boots and Gloves. If he can't use them, he's effectively gimped and it's Yuno vs Wendy all over again without the Sky Dragon Buffs.
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Whatever, we've both made our arguments, we can stop now, people will vote now based on the arguments, no need to go around and around
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Well, it's a debate. If I think something is wrong in your argument I must say it. Your vote for lax is about the AP gap but first, you got Luck's scaling chain wrong and second, we already explained that the AP gap won't matter since Luck blitzes.

The only way i see Lax winning is by eating Luck's lightning and become intangible but luck is faster so idk how his lightning is gonna be absorbed.
 
Hst master said:
Laxus fra. The Projectiles being faster as well is pretty inconsequential seeing as how

Ignoring the blitzing speed amp is pretty hilarious seeing as how

A. Laxus can still eat them from afar or close regardless

Lax will barely react to his speed after he amps his attacks and himself and he can spam a massive amount of projectiles and by any directions

B. Laxus is still inherently resistant.

Resistant =/= Immune
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You realize that resistance =\= immune is for lightning of every tier so that people can't say Laxus shrugs off Rune King Thor's lightning and attacks like that right? For this fight, none of Luck's lightning attacks will be able to harm Laxus. Dragon Slayers are known for being able to tank attacks of their element from people two or three tiers above them.
 
@Epsilon

No one's ignoring it, it just doesn't topple Laxus' own advantage of crippling Luck's primary method of fighting.

Sure he can spam them, that still won't stop him from eating.

Speed =/= Inability to eat.

Furthermore Laxus can speed amp himself as well via Lighting Body, and Luck doesn't even normally have Rage Power, it's only when he's reincarnated as a Elf.

And Luck has nothing noteworthy to counter this resistance.
 
Hst master said:
@Epsilon

No one's ignoring it, it just doesn't topple Laxus' own advantage of crippling Luck's primary method of fighting.

Sure he can spam them, that still won't stop him from eating.

Speed =/= Inability to eat.

Furthermore Laxus can speed amp himself as well via Lighting Body, and Luck doesn't even normally have Rage Power, it's only when he's reincarnated as a Elf.

And Luck has nothing noteworthy to counter this resistance.
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I don't see stat amp on Lax's profile

And we are using Elf luck
 
Epsilon R said:
How far? Also did he ever eat lightning behind him?
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I don't think there is a calc yet for the range of dragon slayer absorption, so I might have to look into it. But here isn't the right place to post that.

Off the top of my head, given that Laxus ate all the jutsu shiki particles in vicinity of a the building they were in it should be at least 20 to 30 feet.

Since the particals were all around him then I'd say yes, he can eat stuff from behind him as well.
 
SpookyShadow said:
And we both know Luck in character isn't doing that. He always enjoys the fight
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Yeah he does that in character but not in elf form, like when he tried to kill Magna with the first hit
 
Hst master said:
You literally posted it yourself.
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Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Expert Hand-to-Hand Combatant, Non-Physical Interaction (can affect Acnologia's Non-Corporeal spirit), Magic, Breath Attack, Enhanced Senses and Reflexes, Extrasensory Perception, Lightning Manipulation, Lightning Absorption (To heal and boost himself), Transformation, Light Manipulation, Intangibility and Flight (Via Lightning Body), Skilled in Rune Magic, Can create a Thought Projection of himself, Skilled in Organic Link Magic, Can paralyze the opponent with his lightning attacks, Resistance to Illusions (Also able to completely break out of them if given the chance), Lightning, and to Sleep Inducement, Limited resistance to Power Nullification (He can resist the effect of bane particle Which can destroy ethernano), Limited Durability Negation and Magic Resistance Negation against Dragons (His Magic is especially effective against those with dragon-like properties, bypassing their defenses)

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