Same for Lucius
Already said it in the message you tagged
So Lucius is just gonna go damn before getting deleted? Gremmy has no reason here to go out of character for Lucius like he did Kenpachi.
Stares at the 2 deleted captains, and the creation of his he deleted off the bat.
But you said she didn't get deleted why is that?
Dead captains can't really fight back in the first place.
Kinda explains why Kenny won along with him being out of character.
Wackpilled.
At best Gremmy thinks delete and at worse it becomes a incon.
Why would they be starting away from the starting point?
Scans?
Okay.
Okay.
Noone made a claim of him deleting Yachuri and everyone explained that him fighting Kenny was him out of character.
Disagree, but okay.
Prep time Lucius ≠ Casual Lucius. Him creating clones before attacking Clover Kingdom is not the same as his casual self starting the match.
The fact of his spell having clear image of becoming sphere and containing certain area doesn't change. Unlike Gremmy imagination which is instant Thought based which doesn't need to move from him to attack his opponents like Lucius spheres
No, Gremmy knew almost everything about Kenpachi, Yachiru, and the captains due to the daten. He doesn't know anything about Lucius, which means he doesn't have to prove anything. So, instant death hax.
The SBA says they're teleporting everyone to the battle spot. So, why would a clone be the one getting teleported instead of the real one? Even if they teleport 11 of them, it doesn't matter because they'll all end up within 10 meters. The match isn't gonna make an exception & let Lucius chill outside that radius.
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The SBA says they're teleporting everyone to the battle spot. So, why would a clone be the one getting teleported instead of the real one? Even if they teleport 11 of them, it doesn't matter because they'll all end up within 10 meters. The match isn't gonna make an exception & let Lucius chill outside that radius.
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It's relevant you still not refuted why Real Lucius would be exceptional and put outside the set range by OP.
No one is stonewalling any of your arguments. I literally gave 2 options
Look at what others saying instead of calling the arguments bullshit. I'm not arguing with just one possibility.
uh batman
Unless OP specifies prep time it shouldn't be used unless it's a part of standard equipments
Grace starts with you then, 7-6
He did start with death hax on two occasions, and scans supporting this claim have been consistently posted in this thread, dismissing it as "not shown anywhere" relies on the argument from ignorance.
Your links don't work for me, what chapter r u linking?
That delay is getting himself killed. Crazy how he didn't use his against Yachiru, almost like he was playing with her.
You claimed he didn't use it anywhere. My point is he used it on Gunnel Lee and two captains. So, despite your other arguments, I'm just addressing your latest reply about Grammy not using it at the beginning of the fight. So stop with the stonewall.
Told where that he used death manipulation to kill those 2 captains? Could've been anything else besides death manipulation because reading this hasn't shown me anything.
Again stop stonewalling. I don't care about other things about Gremmy not using death hax on Yachiru. if you disagree then go downgrade the death manipulation in Gremmy profile. I'm just addressing the point where he uses death hax on 2 occasions. It's your problem if you disagree with whats written in the profile.
The speeds are already equalised, there's no blitzing each other, and if you're talking about the beginning of the Zaraki vs Gremmy fight, Gremmy didn't even take it seriously at that moment. He underestimated Kenpachi's power and ignored the possibility that she would cut him
Gremmy's statements when he enters the battlefield are his direct words about how his imagination works. So here he is directly referring to his own power "V" and the Death mp description in Gremmy's profile is in this direction, if you think otherwise here, it is you who needs to prove it, not us
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, mate that's not even an anti argument but we're talking about a person who can kill Guanell and captains with a simple kill, he doesn't even need to use Death mp to kill them. However, if I had to say something, I would say that Gremmy was clearly mocking Yachiru and Isane because when Yachiru attacked him, instead of thinking that Yachiru was dead, he imagined Yachiru's bones as cookies and Yachiru's bones turned into cookies, so yes, what he said makes no sense
Well, i guess I disagree on the basis of which he has his death manipulation on. I also disagree with him starting with it but I guess you already knew that.
When he fought those captains, did he start with it, even if I for now agree to Gremmy having death manip?
So Gremmy is a dumbass that won't start with his best hax to quickly kill his enemies, nice.Shit
I already answered this at the beginning, the speeds are equalised, here kenpachi clearly dominates Gremmy in speed
The captains died before Guanell, so Gremmy used Death mp first
is this a joke? as soon as the battle starts, they'll attack each other to kill each other, so yes, the Gremmy's first move will be Death mp, and that's it
What are you talking about? It's clear enough it's death manipulation here, he literally dreamed it up and killed them.
This probably won't happen, Gremmy will use RW at the beginning of the match and this will be over
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Gremmy didn't want to use it. Yes, Gremmy has dozens of skills and didn't want to use death mp? He was literally having fun with it. This is like saying, "If Aizen had Spirit pressure, why did he use his sword for Harribel?" lol
LMAOO Tell me dude, who cares if you accept it or not? If you doubt an ability that exists in the profile, go and open a downgrade crt. Also like I said, gremmy was literally having fun...
When he fought those captains, did he start with it, even if I for now agree to Gremmy having death manip?
This is something that happens because of the story arc. Zaraki challenged him to a one-on-one battle, a battle between the strongest Shinigami and the strongest Quincy, and gremmy accepted it
Because Kenpachi has a special title in the bleach verse, something you can't apply to black clover, nor is it something you can prove.
Stop using headcanon to cope. I don't see how you telling me that the captain's had died before Guanell proves death manipulation. You're creating a link that shouldn't exist. Guanell died to existence erasure, not death mp. I asked how you knew that Gremmy started with death manip when he fought head on with the captain's. And there are so many other instances where Gremmy hasn't started with death manip which would be Yachiru and Unohana's lieutenant.
More yap. Likely Gremmy could've crushed their internal organs? Reiatsu maybe? Or even created a bubble in their blood vessels. Maybe even stopped their hearts. Do these account for death manipulation? Gremmy could've thought of all the above since his dumbass has time to imagine somebody's bones becoming cookies rather than killing that opponent immediately.
Calm down
, I'll do a CRT later
