LoZ Top Tier Revisions

[The_real_cal_howard]

So...no 3-A Triforce? If not, what size do you think it is? Solar System sized? Smaller? Is this a no-go on an upgrade?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

It's likely much higher than what has been shown (which I think we account for, already), but due to its nature, it's possible nobody has drawn on its full power, yet.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

So, current tier, likely 3-A for the TF? (If using its full power, it can fully affect the Sacred Realm)

Also, all of Lorule got restored. Does that possibly extend past the planet or no, given that it could be far higher.

Also, how do you feel on what's being said between me, Matt, and Xcano?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I think the "Likely higher" or whatever we have now is sufficient, as of now.

I don't remember the ending exactly, but I can check.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Thanks, bud.

Considering it is considered the size of the other universes via fairness, I believe maybe the likelihood could be used. Especially considering it's at least double earth-sun distance. I will however, not push it if you say otherwise.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, are you willing to settle the small argument happening in the meantime?

 

[Dust_Collector]

So the Triforce (any those who use it) will be "At least 4-B, likely higher" correct? And in regards to Ganon's regen, what's the exact reason for it again?

And sorry if this seems like I'm asking too many questions but what exactly gave Ganon Death Manipulation as well?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

His death curses.

 

[Dust_Collector]

The only death curse I remember him using is the one on the Deku Tree which was only just a Gohma he put inside it, sorry if this is a hassle but are there nore examples you can give of his death curses?

And in regards to his regen, does that come from the fact that even when he dies he always revives?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Azzy, could you support 4-B, possibly/likely 3-A for the TF?

 

[Dark649]

It's more like a reincarnation thing rather than Regenerationn. Azathoth was likely referring to the likely higher to the at least High 4-C tier that we have currently.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

His death curses.

Isn't it Curse Manipulation?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

He already has that.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Question @Cal Were the Resistances under Links file all agreed upon?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Most of them. Only ones that weren't are very self explanatory in the equipment down below.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Where? I don't remember Reality Warping or Conceptual Manipulation ever being discussed.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

List his resistances on my wall, and I'll tell you if it was and/or it was agreed on.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Reality Warping has been there even before I could touch Link's profile. Conceptual manipulation isn't a resistance.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

"Conceptual Manipulation isn't a resistance"

Conceptual Manipulation and Reality Warping along with resistance to it with the Full Triforce

 

[Zeldasmash]

I think he was talking about resistance to Reality Warping.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Just change it to resistance to the latter.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

The wording needs to be fixed. That is all.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Fixed the wording sorta. Bump.

 

[Antvasima]

What still needs to be discussed here?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Whether to change the tiering of the TF/TF users or not, and I'm asking Azzy is At least 4-B/At least 4-B, possibly 3-A is alright. Mostly because far higher doesn't really hold that much weight here, even when it's far higher

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

i don't mind what Cal said. Either one is alright.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Off hand, who exactly would the 4-B to 3-A feat scale to ?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Only wielders of the full Triforce, which is just Downfall!Ganondorf, Classic/ALTTP/FSA Link, and the Triforce itself. Oh, and a few HW characters with the full TF. And FSA Vaati.

According to how our Skyward Sword profiles are currently worded, SS!Link, Hylia, and Denise scale, but I'm not sure.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Malo also scales to the feat.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I see...

May i ask who is Malo ?

 

[Dust_Collector]

This heartless demon is Malo

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I just read a bit about him . How in the world does he scale ?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Joke


Your head

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

....[SIGH]

I was trying to have a serious conversation.

 

[Dark649]

So, in order to upgrade them we need to know the size of the realms, which were affected by the Triforce and if it scales to beings like Demise or Majora.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Even in the best case scenario, it wouldn't scale to Majora.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

@Dark

Also just how much of the realm was affected.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Azzy. It's stated that all of the Sacred Realm is corrupted when Ganondorf touches the TF.

Also, it would be remiss to assume that the most important realm the Golden Goddesses created is smaller than the other ones we considered full universes.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Importance =/= size, though. Especially since the realm was created to hide the Triforce.