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Fair enough. Ditching that.
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No, as FDF and I have Sacred Realm stuff to discuss.
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The Sacred Ream was created by the The Three Golden Goddesses, which are at least 2-C and not the other lesser deities.
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That's...not even remotely close to what I was implying.
Also, 4-B is something entirely different, and 4-A isn't a hyperbole. It's outright false.
Also, 4-B is something entirely different, and 4-A isn't a hyperbole. It's outright false.
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If you were impying the distance of the sun of the moon, then these does not matter as at least Large Star level is much bigger than the sun and the Golden Goddesses does not scale at all the the Triforce users. Azathoth will also debunk the distance thing.
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Okay, first off, you're assuming I'm even stating that the Golden Goddesses did a feat. I'm saying that the Golden Goddesses created the Sacred Realm as a full universe, as it would be unfair to assume otherwise as we consider Lorule, Termina, the Realm of the Ocean King, and the Twilight Realm full universes. The Triforce is what keeps that in balance, and evil touching it turns it into the Dark World, which is a universal feat.
Second, as the lowball, the earth-Sun distance is the RADIUS of what's there. What does the sun's size have anything to do with this? Also, you're putting a lot of faith in the fact that Azzy will side with you.
Second, as the lowball, the earth-Sun distance is the RADIUS of what's there. What does the sun's size have anything to do with this? Also, you're putting a lot of faith in the fact that Azzy will side with you.
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I will. Sorry if that sounded rude or even snarky. Wasn't my intent in the slightest.
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I didn't say all the universes. I said the Sacred Realm. Also, keep in mind this isn't scaling to the Triforce piece holders. Full Triforce, and the two deities who are near its power.
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By two deities are you referring to Demise and Hylia?
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Yes
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Why would they be near the power of the Triforce? I don't recall anything that implies that they're comparable to it.
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Full TF SS Link fought Demise while still in the process of gaining power.
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I'm paraphrasing a bit but..
Groose: She's still here. He hasn't completely absorbed Zelda's soul yet! He's not at full power. Link, you have to stop him.
Groose: She's still here. He hasn't completely absorbed Zelda's soul yet! He's not at full power. Link, you have to stop him.
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Link didn't have the Triforce when he fought Demise, it was left at the statue of Hylia. Not to mention the reason Demise waged against Hylia was to obtain the Triforce and conquer the world. Why would he seek something that's barely more powerful then himself?
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For it's reality warping properties. For example, why would anyone care about the dragon balls if literally everyone dwarfs Shenrom in power by now?
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However, I'm still willing to cooperate and say that they don't scale, and it only scales to the full TF Links and Ganon (and FSA Vaati)
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Oh right, I forgot the Triforce grants wishes lol. But he still shouldn't scale regardless since Link didn't have the Triforce during their fight, it was in the present while Link was fighting Demise in the past.
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I'll agree for now unless anyone brings up any new info. The question now is if the Sacred Realm is planetary/large star in size (how it's kinda currently treated), solar system sized, or universal in size. The last one is the most right, but I'm willing to listen to other's opinions.
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Actually, Human Ganon < Base Calamity (by quite a lot) and DB Ganon is slightly weaker than Demise.
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I don't think there's actually any evidence the Goddesses made any universes at all. We know they made many worlds, but these worlds are never clarified as universes.
Hell, ALttP says they descended from a nebula and in WW (IIRC) someone says that a distant star in the sky is their homeland.
Hell, ALttP says they descended from a nebula and in WW (IIRC) someone says that a distant star in the sky is their homeland.
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You know OoT says they predate time and descended upon chaos. And they're constantly stated to be from heaven.
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Actually, should they be immeasurable for predating time?
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I am seeing it. ovo.
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http://forums.legendsalliance.com/t...anese-game-texts/page-40?p=427038#entry427038
Not sure if this is 100% accurate, but it seems the line about predating time was something random Nintendo of America added that was never mentioned in the original japanese version.
Not sure if this is 100% accurate, but it seems the line about predating time was something random Nintendo of America added that was never mentioned in the original japanese version.
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It practically means the same, given it stated the land was chaos and without reason. As well as being formless.
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Bump
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If they predate time and are said to have created the world out of chaos, then it is pretty obvious that they created the universe.
Like, this is basic creation-myth stuff.
Like, this is basic creation-myth stuff.
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How do people feel about 3-A Triforce (and Triforce/Triforce users alone), or 4-B if we don't consider it to be a full universe.
Also, should we separate the three Golden Goddesses profile into three?
Also, should we separate the three Golden Goddesses profile into three?
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I don't agree with 3-A Triforce / Triforce Users, it's frankly outlierish.
High 4-C to 4-B is doable.
High 4-C to 4-B is doable.
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Isn't the TF known for being nigh-omnipotent and the second strongest thing in the verse, and this "sustain the Sacred Realm" thing has been the case from ALTTP to SS?
I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth tho and take 4-B when given to me.
I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth tho and take 4-B when given to me.
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