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@Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr._Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @Damage3245Is anyone willing to check that out? I'm a bit too green for something that might be a new wiki standard.
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@Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr._Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @Damage3245Is anyone willing to check that out? I'm a bit too green for something that might be a new wiki standard.
@Executor_N0 @DontTalkDT @Antoniofer @UgarikIs anyone willing to check that out? I'm a bit too green for something that might be a new wiki standard.
Sauron has explicit control over Mount Doom, its referenced it was silent until he returned so its mostly himIf I may ask a general question to the feat: Isn't Mount Doom a semi-active volcano anyways? That is to say, do we even have any estimate to how much of the energy of the eruption was contributed by Sauron and how much was just the volcano naturally erupting due to being a volcano?
Sauron clearly triggered the eruption, but does that mean that the volcano itself contributed nothing?
Now Sauron prepared war against the Eldar and the Men of Westernesse, and the fires of the Mountain were wakened again. Wherefore seeing the smoke of Orodruin from afar, and perceiving that Sauron had returned, the Numenoreans named that mountain anew Amon Amarth, which is Mount Doom.
Therefore, after a time he made war upon the Exiles, before they should take root. Orodrúin burst once more into flame, and was named anew in Gondor Amon Amarth, Mount Doom
Turgon followed Túrin, but of his time it is chiefly remembered that two years ere his death, Sauron arose again, and declared himself openly; and he re-entered Mordor long prepared for him. Then Barad-dûr was raised once more, and Mount Doom burst into flame
I'm not saying it just randomly happened at the same time. But a real volcano doesn't erupt from one moment to the other. Before that magma starts collecting and a bunch of pressure builds and stuff.It'd be one hell of a coincidence if the volcano just erupted at the same time. Kinda funny to imagine, but I don't think we should account for that
Does controlling it imply not using the natural mechanisms to power the volcano?Sauron has explicit control over Mount Doom, its referenced it was silent until he returned so its mostly him
Potentially, Sauron is referenced as controlling the fires of the Earth in I believe Tolkien’s letters which could imply it’s him manipulating magmaDoes controlling it imply not using the natural mechanisms to power the volcano?
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So... where can we find the actual diameter of the area Mordor so as to prove Mordor IS 470 miles at the widest?links a fanon wiki as the source for Mordor's size
fanon wiki says Mordor lengthwise is 600 miles
using the actual map gets like 470 miles at the widest
so this calc used a fake number from a fanon wiki and didn't even notice
Sam saw now that it was less lofty than the high passes of the Ephel Dúath which he and Frodo had scaled. The confused and tumbled shoulders of its great base rose for maybe three thousand feet above the plain, and above them was reared half as high again its tall central cone, like a vast oast or chimney capped with a jagged crater. |
According to Karen Wynn Fonstad (author of Atlas of Middle-Earth), the height of Mount Doom is about 4500 feet, based on this passage:
And based on mountain geography, the description given for the slope, and sketches made by Tolkien for Mount Doom, a seven-mile-diameter base was estimated.
Sam saw now that it was less lofty than the high passes of the Ephel Dúath which he and Frodo had scaled. The confused and tumbled shoulders of its great base rose for maybe three thousand feet above the plain, and above them was reared half as high again its tall central cone, like a vast oast or chimney capped with a jagged crater.
So we should go with that.
Also, when figuring out the size of continents and such, here is a map with a scale annotated by Tolkien himself:
That seems fine to me.
@Mr._Bambu @Jasonsith @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Armorchompy
Are any of you willing to calculate based on that size?
What still needs doing here?