Going through one topic at a time. Starting with Hanged Man.
>And honestly, did people forgot about the fight while applying this? No offense, but the whole point of the fight was that light speed is too fast for Silver Chariot and that Polnareff needed to anticipate the trajectory by limiting it. (Ik one of them has a different translation, but it's more coherent overall + the official translation says basically the same).
That's a half truth. You're ignoring half the context and the examples where he outproves this notion false.
>Even the last cut was only possible because of the coin thrown by Kakyoin, since otherwise Polnareff couldn't predict and touch him (some can say "it's because he didn't want to hit the people", but that's sure wasn't what they said).
It's probably gotta do with the fact there's like a good 3 dozen places he could come out and if he doesnt know the exact place he could very well just end up missing him move entirely and then getting a knife to the back, not saying that's the whole reason, but it isnt as simple as youre implying. And that doesnt change what actually happened, Chariot very clearly attacked after he was almost there, not before.
>So a MFTL slower than a LS dude, needing to anticipate his movement and who can't touch it when he has more than one possible trajectory? Not really possible. A low FTL or something like that would however have some consistence.
Actually that LS dude is slower than the MFTL dude, you're ignoring that in every single instance, Chariot attacked AFTER the Hanged Man began moving. He didnt attack before and time it so his attack him it while he was moving (you kinda cant do that if you attack
after he's already moving). In every instance the hanged man came out, began moving then Chariot came out, swung, and hit Hanged Man before he could reach his destination. Even if you want to argue that Pol had to aimdodge kinda, it's impossible to deny that Chariot explicitly and visually attacked after he began moving in every single instance as such the full results scale to Chariot, even if not Pol.
>Besides Aimdodging being a thing, you can actually react without being supersonic yourself since it would need less time overall.
It isnt aimdodging, in all instances Chariot comes out after and attacks him midflight. Also in all instances the distances between them is like, 1m at most. You go dodge a bullet from 1m away after it was fired, see what happens.
Look, I'm going to be blunt here. The whole Chariot Hanged Man thing doesnt work as a counterargument. We know for an absolute fact Pol can keep up with it to an extent and Chariot is outright faster.
Why do we know?
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Polnareff perceives the Hanged Man]. Contrary to popular belief or statements. An overlooked feat and the entire basis for the follwing scenes in the whole Hanged Man fiasco is, put simply. Polnareff himself ''explicitly'' states that he could see The Hanged Man move between surfaces at lightspeed. The only reason Polnareff figured out Hanged Man was lightspeed and was moving between surfaces that reflect light is because he ''saw him do it''. Polnareff, explicitly so, could perceive and react to The Hanged Man's laser-beam lightspeed mode. Even clarifying that he seen it happen. This is lightspeed reactions, undeniably so, Polnareff himself could see the Hanged Man move at light speed between objects, even following the trail and movements. As stated previously, but to reiterate to make it more clear, prior to this, Polanreff had absolutely zero idea what The Hanged Man's power was or how it was attacking from within reflections and the like, it was only after Polnareff explicitly noticed, saw, and kept up with the Hanged Man's laser, that Polnareff knew the nature of The Hanged Man's ability, because, of course, he saw him moving at lightspeed between multiple objects.
But, obviously there's contention of something like "Well Chariot had to aimdodge/strike pre-emptively to hit Hanged Man". False, in every single situation, Chariot attacked afterwards.
If in every single instance, the Stand Silver Chariot comes out and attacks after the the lightspeed Hanged Man is already on the move, attacks him mid movement, all before he gets to his destination, then Chariot is > Hanged Man. The argument of aimdodge and the like doesnt even work because in all instances Chariot came out and attack when The Hanged Man had little distance left to travel.
As you can see here, this too is consistently portrayed across all media as well.
In the manga, anime and OVA, Chariot comes out to strike only
after The Hanged Man is nearing the coin (In the manga Polnareff himself yells "Now!" indicating when he's about to summon Chariot and swing, with said instance being when the Hanged Man is like a inch away from the coin.
As you can see here, it not only happens in the manga, but it's even portrayed the same across all media. (Hell, it even looks like Chariot returned to Pol immediately after while HM was still mid flight).
Ie, the whole "Polnareff cant react to the Hanged Man" is complete bullshit, the only reason why Pol figured out he was lightspeed and could move between surfaces is because he literally saw him do it, he didn't put two and two together, he didn't get told by someone else, the enemy didn't monologue. He literally just straight up saw it happened and was like "huh, so he's lightspeed then?".
And the aimdodge/preemptitive strike doesn't work either because Chariot always attacked after, not before. It's literally impossible to call it aimdodging or striking ahead of time, saying it is would be literally lying through one's teeth. Yes, it's insinuated Pol would have issue tagging The Hanged Man, but when all these blogs say "it's contradicted by what we see", they're saying it for a damn good reason, because it is contradicted, ,multiple times over. This simply doesn't work as a counter argument. It's basically on par with saying Zeno isn't FTL because he couldn't keep up with Dyspo, despite the fact it's contradicted multiple times over.
Also fyi, Chariot doesn't tag the Hanged Man just in that one instance, he does it twice. Both times swinging after HM begins moving. Also, for what its worth. Chariot and Polnareff don't have linked senses like some stand users like Jotaro and Star Platinum, while Jotaro can perceive things through Star Platinum, Pol cant through Chariot, just thought I'd mention that, though it doesnt change this at all.
