Let's see where this goes: God of Thunder vs. Man of Steel

[C2_of_Omegon]

Krypton's Last So


Son of Odi


Speed Equal. Base Thor with Mjolnir. SBA otherwise.

Thor:

Superma:

Thunder McQueen:

 

[Bob8999]

god>>>>>man + steel is a conductor, thor wins. (this is a joke.)

seriously though, dura and AP seems atleast similar (probably wrong but i really dont feel like digging through their scaling chains.), speed is equal, supes has a decent LF advantage, they both have insane stamina so i doubt that will matter, range is basically equal, thor is probably more skilled due to having far more experience but supes is smarter and has more hax (not necessarily better just more.) tough call.....

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Uh, doesn't Thor have more hax?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Isn't Thor's hammer attacks magical? bone 3 superman weakness.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

It's not one of Supermans weaknesses, he just doesn't have any natural resistance to magical attacks. He's beaten beings with magical energy before.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Superman holds an AP Advantage currently, both can increase it via sundipping and warriors madness, so Thor might have an advantage in that, Supes could probably overcome the advantage by sitting in the sun for a few minutes though if push comes to shove. Supes also surprisingly has more hax than Thor, and resists the big stuff. Power Null is only gonna negate Supermans intangability, Matter Manip is resisted by Superman.. Honestly I'll probably give this to Superman. Warriors Madness can be countered if Superman immerses himself in a star long enough, Superman could bust Thors ears with sound manipulation or probably at least daze him, his range is only planetary so I doubt BFRing is gonna help him much with those portals, as Superman can just fly back, unless they are far greater than that. Superman can create after images if Thor gets tricky with his other abilities, Superman can negate intangability via Heat Vision, and if he really needs to, can just use his Heat Vision ona microscopic level and just cut Thor in half.


Superman gets my vote, I feel like he'd win before Thor pulls out any haxes that he doesn't resist.

 

[CBslayeR]

Superman FRA

 

[Iisdude1]

Superman fra

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Superman FRA

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Sups fra

 

[LordTracer]

Kal-El FRA.

 

[NotoriouSoda]

0-6 one more vote then grace

 

[CBslayeR]

Lets hear some arguments for Thor first

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Yeah, I'd love to hear some more counter arguments for Thor before this ends. I'm not entirely sure on his list of abilites and what he's to open with, so please guys, at least give some of the Marvel people a change to back up the God of Thunder. I have a feeling this match is way closer than I described it.

 

[Iisdude1]

Thor could use the elements to keep Superman on the ropes and potentially absorb his heat vision. Thor can fight the Midgard serpent, who is non corporeal, so intangibility shouldn't be a problem. He also has the god blast and thermo bomb. That's really all I'm seeing for Thor.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

That is a fair point, but honestly I see Superman's after images, sonic attacks (which he probably would still using down the line, this is gonna be a long and hard fought battle), Durability negation via microscopic heat vision give him a better edge.

 

[Iisdude1]

Eventually Thor would want to use his two strongest attacks, which might be able to take Superman out if he can use both of them. They can both create illusions but I don't k ow how that will come I to lay.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Superman resists Illusions, while Thor does not. Knowing Thor is magic, I'm pretty sure Superman will be on the defensive and try and avoid all of the attacks he can unless he knows he's powerful enough to beat Thor down easily, which he isn't. So I feel like he'd try and avoid stuff like the Godblast and other powerful moves, if Superman doesn't beat him before Thor uses them.

 

[Iisdude1]

itll be hard for Superman to keep up with the elements that are constantly assaulting him, Thor will see that this is a game of attrition and try to knock Superman out with god last.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I find it ironic that Superman resists illusions and Thor doesn't, considering Loki exists.

 

[Newendigo]

I find it funny that Superman is having a better fight against Thor than against Iron Man.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Just drop a few things that people forget Thor can do:

Mjolnir can absorb energy attacks and then fire them back with double the force.

He can create forcefields to block attacks and Mjolnir can home in on targets.

Mjolnir can sense and track energy signatures plus just sense people in general. Shoot, the thing can track down people across dimensions, even if Thor can't reach them, or even people he's never met.

He summon lightning bolts the size of countries and create entire nets out of the stuff.

Thor can BFR not just to planets but even to other dimensions.

Just some food for thought. There's a lot of canceling out between these two, it's why I thought this be a good match. They have a lot to throw at each and various ways to overcome the other advantages

Also, I've just got to give my own take on the amps between these two to point out somethings. Superman will need a good bit of time in the sun to match Thor, if Odinson goes Warrior Madness. Warrior Madness is a legit 10x amp. Thor goes from >387 kilofoe to >3.87 megafoe. On one hand, Superman will need time for sundipping to get any noticeable increase in power but Thor won't let him run and would just chase after him. On the other hand, Thor is utterly loathed to go Warrior Madness despite the instant power it would give him. So one not pratical while the other is a last resort, only if the world is ending kind of option.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

To counter the absorbing energy attacks and firing them back with twice the force, Superman can also just deflect the attacks with his heat Vision, as shown with Darkseids omega beams.

 

[LordUrien935]

Wonder if Superman would be worthy to hold Mjolnir so he could stop it from attacking him.

Also, how does Thor's BFR work? Does he just create a portal?

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Thor can create a portal or he can evelope his opponent in a cyclone of energy to just send them wherever.

 

[TheBestBoi]

wasn't this matchup done like a few years ago in 2017?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

What's your point?

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Superman can rip holes open in the fabric of space time, and just return to the battle field. Unless there is evidence that he cannot control where he is sent to.

 

[LordUrien935]

wasn't this matchup done like a few years ago in 2017?

Multiple times actually. I think Thor even won and had a W against Superman for a time. But that was before the additions to Superman's powers and resistances.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Old King Phoenix Thor says hi.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

What does Old King Phoenix Thor have to do with this?

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Cosmic Armor Superman says hi.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Superman can rip holes open in the fabric of space time, and just return to the battle field. Unless there is evidence that he cannot control where he is sent to.

BTW, when did Superman rip a hole in space-time? I know he sealed a hole once but I've never heard of him doing the opposite. Because circumstances could give that evidence.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

It's just on his profile, that's where I got that information from.

 

[LordUrien935]

Well, if no one else is going to argue for Thor then Superman FRA.

Also that Thor render looks a lot better than the current one.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

(Sigh)...man, I expected much more of debate. Kind of letdown, TBH.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

It is, honestly. I was expecting a better match out of this, I guess it's a decisive win for Supes. I doubt Sentry vs Superman would be better, ngl.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

That's grace, either way.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

I doubt Sentry vs Superman would be better, ngl.

Sentry would win by sheer attrition. His regen and ressurection make him nigh-impossible to put down and while he can't affect Supes directly with most of his matter hax, can undo things like the absolute zero. His mind hax is actually good enough to probably bypass Supes resistance. Also, given Sentry's recent powerup, he has an AP/DURA advantage.

It honestly be more about how long can Superman delay the inveitable and slow Sentry down than anything else.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

How much greater is Sentry's AP? Because I feel like with Supermans abilities, he could eventually just beat the Sentry down enough that his form would just fade like how it was when he fought World War Hulk.