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It depends. So we view magic power as something conceptual
IMO he could deal with it with his fate manipulation I think, kinda like cutting of the possibility his stamina is set to 1.
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Lay vs CC Goku
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Vietthai96
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He can't do anything with stamina = 1, unless he has thought-based and passive hax, any physical movement he incap himself
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Can we wait for Layz profile to be updated before continuing this match please?
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He could power null the hax affecting him though
EldemadeDityjon
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He can with Evansmana. Yzark abilities were literally Passive possibility manipulation and powernull for every attacks which comes after him still lay didn't got affected thanks to Evansmana.
Agree. I will try to drop a CRT for him tomorrow if i get some free time until we can stop this here.
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Alright, sure we can wait till Lay profile is updated but also don't close this thread
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@EldemadeDityjon is the profile updated completely or is there any additions tho?
EldemadeDityjon
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Nah. It's good and from the profile looks. I don't think Goku has any chance both in AP and Haxes now. Lets see if DB supporters has anything to say. I mean Lay 2A ranting and Haxes are 20+ layers and not to forget Adaptation of Evansmana.
Vietthai96
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Xeno Goku can just amp himself with multiple stackable stats hax and damage hax, and he just dura neg anyway. Though hax is the problem, but i'm currently busy
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I'd still advise to change Xeno Goku with another DBH character.
(maybe because i grew tired of him,idk. I do think he still has wincons,but oh well)
(maybe because i grew tired of him,idk. I do think he still has wincons,but oh well)
EldemadeDityjon
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Fuu would be better may be
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Feel free to check the Dragon Ball (Games) page and see which character could put up a good fight.
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Is Xenogoku a little bit unfair or just lay stomp him? Did I understand that correctly?
Vietthai96
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That 20+ layers is a bit unfair, yeah, and Xeno Goku is not the most offensive character when it come to hax
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Oh wait this match is still alive ... eh need a hand?
EldemadeDityjon
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Eques Stomps easily. Xenogoku can't do anything against predetermined fate which negs Acausality & TD
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So,have you found a better character?
Vietthai96
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Just.......not make any match, all match with MG just end up getting stomped
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Non Smurf;
- Eques
- Graham
- Celis (when he gets a profile)
- Misa illiologue (when she gets a profile)
- Sasha Necron
Vietthai96
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Everyone in MG is, uh oh, non-smurf??
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Yeah, unless you're counting those with 5-A keys like anos
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Obviously those tier 2 characters wouldn't be a smurf in that tier. The question would obviously be asked for lower keys.
Vietthai96
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Anos and Graham i think
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Wasn't referring to the tier 2 characters in the first place. I was just checking the lower tires, both those with profiles and without.
All Gods before Silver sea is introduced are also smurfs. They're like 5-A with low 2-C to 2-A hax
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2-A
Can't be non-smurf duo to his divine weapon and eyes
Also can't be non-smurf because of his purple eyes which I think also nulled Graham's weapon
She probably isn't smurf. But I am unsure if she can wield Venuzdonoa under certain circumstances, she never does it again tho after her arc is finished.
Isn't a smurf in her 7-B key but she would be pretty weak there and a profile needs a revision.
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EldemadeDityjon
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Misa is OP but gets smoked by many characters.
You are forgetting Yzark , Audus & Admiral Gigi
when they gets profile they will be top tier in the verseAlso Shin negs Misa and Sasha
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Nope, mind suggesting one
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Is it fair? AP is not equalized
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Yap seems one of subordinates of Anos stomp
Vietthai96
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UT CC Goku i think stomp Lay, his passive is kinda broken
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what is it?
Vietthai96
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just see his profile
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