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Kurogane Ikki (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry/Eiyuutan) Stat Check Part 3

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KaenDragneel123 said:
Nothing new about the novel?
And nothing about Stella vs Ikki?
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We had some updates, but nothing too relevant. Ikki's opponent in the second round was introduced. His ability is teleportation. He can freely teleport anything within a 50 meter radius from himself, but this only works on living targets if he wounds them with his Device.

Stella got a new power (enhanced senses). The rest of the chapter was just Ikki and Stella doing some stuff ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Sara interrupts them right before things get intense. And that's pretty much it.

Here are Stella's enhanced senses.

Thus he silenced his footsteps, approached her.

"Wh-"

He made to tap her on the shoulder, intending to make a frightening sound-

"Don't slink up behind me-!"

"Woaaaah!!"

-which turned into a cry of shock.

Before he could touch her, she swivelled around, leg extended in a roundhouse kick.

Even without looking, the high kick was aimed right at his head.

From the way it split the air, it was not born of any ordinary amount of strength.

Only by his preternatural reflexes was Ikki able to bend backwards and avoid the blow.

"Damn, that habit from training reared its head...are you alright? ...Eh, Ikki?!"

Stella's eyes widened as she realized that he had been the one behind her.

"Ha, Hahaha...good evening, Stella."

[...]

Recalling the sharp crack of the wind as it scythed across the top of his head, his smile was rather forced.

"But those were some amazing reflexes there. I had totally silenced my footsteps and snuffed out my aura too."

It was practically a reflex reaction, and moreover it was precise, going for a vital spot despite not seeing the other party.

That was something Stella had lacked before.

"Was that something you got from training with Saikyou-sensei?"

Stella nodded.

"Well, I've gotten pretty touchy about it since she would always appear in my blind spots as and when- Ah."

"What is it?"

"Someone downstairs dropped a ten-yen coin."

So, Enhanced Hearing and Awareness.
 
Among the dozens of crawling stone dolls, she exposed the one body operating all of the dolls in an instant. And in that instant, Touka's body disappeared.

No, not disappeared. Before anyone could see it, she pierced the enemy line―she plunged toward the hub that she had discovered.

Shippu Jinrai.[6]

Stimulating her muscles with the power of lightning, it was Touka's Noble art that increased her performance to its limit. That speed, it was undoubtedly like lightning.

Speed feat for Touka in Shippu Jinrai. The bolded part is important, because Ikki was in Ittou Shura when she did that. This should be enough for an upgrade, right?
 
Lina Shields said:
So what is the desired upgrade that you are proposing for Touka? Would it be MHS+ attack speed?
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Nah, it would be "At least Hypersonic+" with Shippu Jinrai. For all kinds of speed, not just attack speed.
 
Alright, it's upgrade time. And it's not even new stuff, this is something i didn't realize before.

So, Stella should be upgraded to Small Building level physically. All the way back in Vol. 1, when the mall is attacked by terrorists, Stella fights against the terrorist leader Bischof. The thing is, Bischof's Noble Art allows him to absorb his opponent's attacks and send them back. And as you can see here and in the page where he explains his ability, Stella took quite a bit of damage from being hit with her own power. If she has Small Building level durability and being hit with one of her own attacks does that much damage, then her AP should also be Small Building level.

Now, i know that i've said that Stella was only Small Building level in durability after training with Nene, but i was wrong. As it turns out, Stella's SB level durability comes from her subconscious magical barriers. And a Blazer's amount of magical power cannot be increased. All Blazers will always have the same amount of magical power, from the moment they are born, until their death. The only way of changing that is awakening, which is something that Stella hasn't done yet. So she already had SB level durability when the series started. This is consistent with Ikki needing to use Ittou Shura to damage her, btw.

And since we're talking about Ikki, this does not scale to him. There are multiple statements in the novels saying that Stella is stronger than him when it comes to pure physical strength. The reason i said Ikki was stronger than her is that he has A-rank physical ability while Stella's is B-Rank, and a scene in the manga where he seems to be overpowering her. Though now that i've found those statements and realized that physical ability includes things like speed and skill too, it seems obvious to me that Ikki is not stronger.

Oh, btw, this is NOT a downgrade for Ikki, because he can't be more than 10 times weaker than her, since IS Ikki > Stella, so he's still Wall level. We just have to change the reasoning in his profile.


tl;dr Stella always had Small Building level durability, even when the series started, since Blazer's can't change how much MP they have. And she takes quite a bit of damage from having the power of her strikes absorbed and turned against her, so she also has Small Building level AP. Doesn't scale to Ikki, because as it turns out, my previous reasoning for Ikki being stronger than Stella in base was BS. Ikki is not downgraded because Ittou Shura > Stella, so he can't be more than 10 times weaker, so he's still Wall level anyway.
 
Agreed with the AP upgrade. Btw, that reflector guy is the one that made Stella strip and got disarmed as a result right?
 
Gemmysaur said:
Agreed with the AP upgrade. Btw, that reflector guy is the one that made Stella strip and got disarmed as a result right?
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Wait, if he absorbs your power and sent it back to you

Shouldn't that mean that Stella's Durability should be upgrade it.
 
He absorbed a burning sword slash and shot the force back at her, throwing her backwards but otherwise unharmed.

http://www.*********.co/manga/rakudai_kishi_no_eiyuutan/c006/21.html

http://www.*********.co/manga/rakudai_kishi_no_eiyuutan/c006/22.html

http://www.*********.co/manga/rakudai_kishi_no_eiyuutan/c006/23.html


...and I really think we should change the title.
 
Yeah, it's mentioned in the novels that Laevateinn is almost always on fire, so i don't see the point there. It's still only her physical strength behind the blow. Also, she did take damage. She couldn't even get up for a few seconds there. She just looks unharmed because punches usually only destroy clothes in cliche heavy ecchi anime, and Rakudai is pretty much the bane of that genre's existance. Clothes are only destroyed when it makes sense for them to be.

About the title, i agree, but i kinda want to leave it like that to keep the joke running.

@Aiden I don't think we need another thread right now.
 
Oh, we have a new one already? Haha. Rakudai has the longest stat check I've ever been part of.
 
Gemmysaur said:
Oh, we have a new one already? Haha. Rakudai has the longest stat check I've ever been part of.
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No, we don't have another one yet.

It's only this long because we turned it into a discussion about the entire verse.
 
So, Small Building level AP and durability for Stella as well as given reasoning, correct?

I imagine Ikki's AP should be left where it is, as he wasn't able to hurt Stella until he went Itto Shura.
 
Lina Shields said:
So, Small Building level AP and durability for Stella as well as given reasoning, correct?
I imagine Ikki's AP should be left where it is, as he wasn't able to hurt Stella until he went Itto Shura.
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Yes. Exactly this. Just change the reasoning for Ikki's base AP, since he's not stronger than Stella.
 
Yeah, that's pretty much it atm.


~Waiting for Ikki's shadow distorting move to not be an outlier.
 
That happens near the end of Vol. 9, we only reached the halfway point of Vol. 6 last week. Vol. 6 was already being translated even before Stat Check 1 was closed IIRC, we won't see Oikage until at least next year.

...... That's just sad, man.
 
Daaaaaamn. That's a long time. Thankfully, I have this 10 hour challenge of the best girl of this and last season talking along with the music.
 
I don't know what that means, since i actually didn't watch any anime since Rakudai's, but from what i see on the internet lately, i'm guessing that this season's best girl is Rem (i still have to watch Re: Zero, it's the first one that really caught my interest this year).
 
All the Re Zero hype is dulling my Rakudai fan-ness...

Ouma is Ikki's brother right? I think it is. The guy who tanked Raikiri to the face right??

Oh and Re Zero is a must watch. Can't believe it started with a low-selling novel that wasn't even in the top 100 when it was found by Kadokawa. Now it's #9 in the rankings it's listed in.
 
@Gemmys Yes, that's Ouma.

Also, from not even top 100 to 9th place? Damn, that's one hell of an increase in popularity right there. I'll probably watch it near the end of the month, or maybe next month. I'll be busy with other stuff until then.
 
Not to jump in on your rakudai thread or anything but since re zero was mentioned gonna provide some more info to maybe get you to watch it.

Re zero was rated as best anime of spring 2016 and is selling extremly well the light novel had sold about 400K before the anime and now it has sold arong 1.5 million copies and the web novel before the anime only got around 2 million clicks now it has 20 million clicks and has gemmysaur said now rated as #9 in rankings of light novels and the story isn't even really any where close to been done. The light novel has 3 arcs so far while the author plans to make at least 11 arcs so yea it's really hyped right now.

And for good reason cause the story is so good, the author hates things like weak and non-threatning villains so he made his villains overpowered as hell, and he hated characters being thrown aside so virtually every character has a deep and flesh out backstory, the thing is though you have to be patient not everything is revealed at once, things are revealed slowly.
 
This change would be applied for which other characters? [Shizuku, Touka, Ayatsuji, Renren]

Their striking strength and AP should be changed as well.
 
Nah. Shizuku, Renren and Ayase are waaaaaay weaker than Stella when it comes to physical strength. I don't know about Touka though. She did fight Stella in the beggining of Vol. 4, let me see if anything happened that could justify scaling her.

Edit: Nope, not at all. Touka was managing close combat against Stella in the same way Ikki did: pure skill. Stella was still stronger.
 
For Edelweiss:

Attack Potency: At least Building level, likely higher

I believe Ikki was able to take her on with Itto Shura for a limited time, which means Edelweiss' AP should not be all that far from Ikki's IS.
 
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