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As was asking because we agree on scale the "Supersonic" feat for Ikki from Renren
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Kurogane Ikki (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry/Eiyuutan) Stat Check Part 3
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Oh, yeah. That. I kinda forgot about it. Sorry, i'll update them now.
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Fixed it.
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Thanks.
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F*cking manga ;-;
I want to calc the golem feat T-T
I want to calc the golem feat T-T
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Ikr? I want to see how they handle the golem scene, and how they handle the fact that Stella was pretty much naked before they got attacked and didn't have time to put on some clothes, and yet somehow no one comments on that in the novels.
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Nice...NotEvenHuman said:
She has a towel though
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Still pretty much naked. And literally NO ONE comments on it. How does that even happen?
But anyway, the manga is not the only one taking it's time to update. It's been ten days since the last update on the novels, and this series is supposed to have weekly updates. Then again, the translator might have something important to do IRL right now (or maybe his internet is being a b*tch. That happens.)
But anyway, the manga is not the only one taking it's time to update. It's been ten days since the last update on the novels, and this series is supposed to have weekly updates. Then again, the translator might have something important to do IRL right now (or maybe his internet is being a b*tch. That happens.)
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What do you mean?NotEvenHuman said:
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How is it possible that none of the characters in the scene mention the fact that Stella is naked?
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This is going off topic.
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This is going off topic.
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1. That's... normal in animeNotEvenHuman said:
2. Yeah, but without this comments, this thread is like a ghost
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@KaenDragneel
1. Not as far as i know. Specially in this particular scene.
2. I can't even deny that, lol.
1. Not as far as i know. Specially in this particular scene.
2. I can't even deny that, lol.
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^^^^^^^^ This is one of the reasons i love Rakudai. Taking cliches and nuking the hell out of them since chapter one.Gemmysaur said:
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Well, Ikki's logic when he first met Stella could count as Insane Troll Logic, so not really.
Still way better than 95% of the series with a similar premise.
Still way better than 95% of the series with a similar premise.
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Oh, hey. I found something on-topic to talk about.
So, let's talk about Raikiri. Specifically, how strong it is. I'd like to have an accurate value for it. Here are some feats:
The moment that Raikiri, who was clad in plasma, followed through, a blade that transcended the speed of sound blasted through the surrounding atmosphere. The same windstorm that burst open swept over Toudou, and blew apart Byakuya Kekkai's mist. That aftermath reached even the audience seats, and grated the cracked assembly hall. The force of the atmosphere was already to the point people couldn't even stay up.
This is from Touka's fight against Shizuku. Next up is Touka destroying Reisen's golems:
"―Raikiri!"
Within that instant, everything was decided.
With the speed of a flash, a blade of plasma was unsheathed, and the hub was bisected with a single stroke.
Then came a blast of air, and all the stone dolls on the field were demolished. After a blast that appeared to send everything flying ended, there was not a single enemy remaining.
So, are these two quantifiable? IIRC, plasma is like, insanely hot, so maybe we could get an AP rating just from that.
So, let's talk about Raikiri. Specifically, how strong it is. I'd like to have an accurate value for it. Here are some feats:
The moment that Raikiri, who was clad in plasma, followed through, a blade that transcended the speed of sound blasted through the surrounding atmosphere. The same windstorm that burst open swept over Toudou, and blew apart Byakuya Kekkai's mist. That aftermath reached even the audience seats, and grated the cracked assembly hall. The force of the atmosphere was already to the point people couldn't even stay up.
This is from Touka's fight against Shizuku. Next up is Touka destroying Reisen's golems:
"―Raikiri!"
Within that instant, everything was decided.
With the speed of a flash, a blade of plasma was unsheathed, and the hub was bisected with a single stroke.
Then came a blast of air, and all the stone dolls on the field were demolished. After a blast that appeared to send everything flying ended, there was not a single enemy remaining.
So, are these two quantifiable? IIRC, plasma is like, insanely hot, so maybe we could get an AP rating just from that.
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Plasma could just a simple expresion
About the Golems, if they're similar to the one Ikki fought, I can calc the Size and the fragmentation of one of those
About the Golems, if they're similar to the one Ikki fought, I can calc the Size and the fragmentation of one of those
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The golems are much smaller versions, made out of the rubble of the golem Ikki destroyed.
I'm personally more interested in Touka blowing away Byakuya Kekkai, that was covering the whole arena. I'm pretty sure that we could get an AP rating out of that, but i don't know if it would be higher than their current ratings, in which case it's kinda pointless.
I'm searching for some more quotes on the plasma thing. I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned more than once.
I'm personally more interested in Touka blowing away Byakuya Kekkai, that was covering the whole arena. I'm pretty sure that we could get an AP rating out of that, but i don't know if it would be higher than their current ratings, in which case it's kinda pointless.
I'm searching for some more quotes on the plasma thing. I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned more than once.
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Well, it can be a good feat, yeah
But it depends on the timeframe
But it depends on the timeframe
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Well, Raikiri is around Mach 200, so you should be able to get a timeframe out of that.
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No, in this case, the could dispersion has nothing to do with the attack speed
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Huh..... Then i have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about.
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can calculate the KE of the mist (0.5×Mass×(V^2))
And the mist was dispersed after the attack
But, i dont think that took more than just3 s
And the mist was dispersed after the attack
But, i dont think that took more than just3 s
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I personally think that saying it took 3 seconds for Raikiri to diperse all of the mist is one hell of a lowball. Also, of course the mist was dispersed after the attack. Kinda hard to disperse it without doing anything, lol.
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Yeah, I'll use 1 s for High End
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Considering that we know that Raikiri uses lightning as a weapon, we have a temperature for the plasma of lightning, as stated here.
Plasma Potential
Lightning is an example of plasma present at Earth's surface. Typically, lightning discharges 30,000 amperes at up to 100 million volts, and emits light, radio waves, X-rays and even gamma rays.[13] Plasma temperatures in lightning can approach 28,000 K (28,000 ┬░C; 50,000 ┬░F) and electron densities may exceed 1024 mÔêÆ3.
Plasma Potential
Lightning is an example of plasma present at Earth's surface. Typically, lightning discharges 30,000 amperes at up to 100 million volts, and emits light, radio waves, X-rays and even gamma rays.[13] Plasma temperatures in lightning can approach 28,000 K (28,000 ┬░C; 50,000 ┬░F) and electron densities may exceed 1024 mÔêÆ3.
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Really, well, can you calc that in the same way as you did with KS?
(And... Maybe in a blog in this page?)
(And... Maybe in a blog in this page?)
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Huh, so lightning is a type of plasma? That's interesting.
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Huh, i also didn't know that. The more you know....
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A wild update appears!
So, we got an update in the novels today, and Amane's crazy hax was explained in details:
(tl;dr : Amane is "Super Shenlong: Psycho Shota Edition")
"No, you don't actually foretell the future. The order of things is reversed here."
"..."
At these words, the smile that Amane usually had plastered on his face dissipated, a shadow falling over it.
"Wait, Ikki." Alice cut in. "What do you mean by 'reversed'?"
"I should have realized this when he defeated Vice President Utakata. The Vice Pres' ability, Fifty-Fifty, manipulates probability such that he can twist a result that had already been decided. Since the manipulation is limited to what he can achieve with his own abilities, it lacks offensive power, but he should have been nigh invincible as long as he focused on defense. But he lost. He lost to Amane. Someone who lacks any martial ability at all, possessing only Future Sight. Do you think this is possible?"
"That's…"
"Impossible. Utterly impossible. If we assume it were possible, then the only way is to use a probability manipulation technique strong enough to force certainty onto Fifty-Fifty. For example...an ability that can change probability according to your wishes."
"...!"
"Like this, all can be explained. In other words, Amane's 'future sight' is not in fact a foretelling of the future. The truth behind the criminal, Alice's betrayal, and now the collapse of Yakushi-san's patients...these are all 'futures' that he simply created. Am I wrong, Amane?"
Having said his piece, Ikki leveled his gaze at Amane, who had not said a word since earlier, merely looking at Ikki in silence.
"...Haa."
He sighed, shoulders drooping, and then flashed a resigned smile.
"As expected of Ikki-kun, I guess. You covered everything that I could say. I was going to reveal it to you together with the my penance, but you're too good. My poor subterfuge was nothing before the demonic mirror of the Crownless Sword King."
But, that's actually not how it works:
"It is as you said, but I would like to make a correction. Yes, my ability is indeed not 'Future Sight', but I do not wield some god-like ability as Ikki says. You know...I only make wishes."
"Wishes?"
"Yes, just wishes. I cannot change every little thing about fate. I only wished to have 'a dramatic first meeting with Ikki-kun', for 'the assault on Hagun to go off without a hitch', or 'it would be troublesome to have to fight'. Just that. And when I do so, everything will change such that it will eventually go as I wish, but without my knowledge. That's the true form of my ability Bad Luck - they call it Nameless Glory."
More details:
"So, what," Shizuku asked, "could you call the moon to crash down onto the earth if you wished for it?"
Amane cocked an eyebrow in displeasure.
"Scary- I would never wish for that to happen; wouldn't it be terrible if that were to come true? After all, there has never been a single wish of mine up till now that has not come to be."
[...]
"That's absolutely correct. Just that it takes a roundabout route to fulfilling my wish, and that the method by which it fulfills it something unknown to me," he said, palms pressed together. "So really, I didn't mean to or predict that I would endanger the lives of your patients. Sorry about that."
[...]
"So what if I just killed you here and now, and return that evil fate to normal?"
Her tone was even, but the anger roiling forth from her eyes said that all she wanted to do was to attack Amane right there and then.
But he merely shrugged, unfazed by the pressure she exuded.
"Of course my death would nullify the effects of my ability, but I wouldn't recommend it. After all, if that were to happen, I would wish to not die. From my experience, there are a lot of ways that this could make you not fight me. For example, if an earthquake were to strike this place that is all but filled to the brim with people, and there were a great many casualties, you wouldn't be able to spare the time to fight me, no?"
"Can you really do that?"
"Well, I'd rather not of course. But if it comes down to it, I'm not taking responsibility, so I'd rather you not push it…"
So..... Rakudai just got a whole lot of hax, i guess.
So, we got an update in the novels today, and Amane's crazy hax was explained in details:
(tl;dr : Amane is "Super Shenlong: Psycho Shota Edition")
"No, you don't actually foretell the future. The order of things is reversed here."
"..."
At these words, the smile that Amane usually had plastered on his face dissipated, a shadow falling over it.
"Wait, Ikki." Alice cut in. "What do you mean by 'reversed'?"
"I should have realized this when he defeated Vice President Utakata. The Vice Pres' ability, Fifty-Fifty, manipulates probability such that he can twist a result that had already been decided. Since the manipulation is limited to what he can achieve with his own abilities, it lacks offensive power, but he should have been nigh invincible as long as he focused on defense. But he lost. He lost to Amane. Someone who lacks any martial ability at all, possessing only Future Sight. Do you think this is possible?"
"That's…"
"Impossible. Utterly impossible. If we assume it were possible, then the only way is to use a probability manipulation technique strong enough to force certainty onto Fifty-Fifty. For example...an ability that can change probability according to your wishes."
"...!"
"Like this, all can be explained. In other words, Amane's 'future sight' is not in fact a foretelling of the future. The truth behind the criminal, Alice's betrayal, and now the collapse of Yakushi-san's patients...these are all 'futures' that he simply created. Am I wrong, Amane?"
Having said his piece, Ikki leveled his gaze at Amane, who had not said a word since earlier, merely looking at Ikki in silence.
"...Haa."
He sighed, shoulders drooping, and then flashed a resigned smile.
"As expected of Ikki-kun, I guess. You covered everything that I could say. I was going to reveal it to you together with the my penance, but you're too good. My poor subterfuge was nothing before the demonic mirror of the Crownless Sword King."
But, that's actually not how it works:
"It is as you said, but I would like to make a correction. Yes, my ability is indeed not 'Future Sight', but I do not wield some god-like ability as Ikki says. You know...I only make wishes."
"Wishes?"
"Yes, just wishes. I cannot change every little thing about fate. I only wished to have 'a dramatic first meeting with Ikki-kun', for 'the assault on Hagun to go off without a hitch', or 'it would be troublesome to have to fight'. Just that. And when I do so, everything will change such that it will eventually go as I wish, but without my knowledge. That's the true form of my ability Bad Luck - they call it Nameless Glory."
More details:
"So, what," Shizuku asked, "could you call the moon to crash down onto the earth if you wished for it?"
Amane cocked an eyebrow in displeasure.
"Scary- I would never wish for that to happen; wouldn't it be terrible if that were to come true? After all, there has never been a single wish of mine up till now that has not come to be."
[...]
"That's absolutely correct. Just that it takes a roundabout route to fulfilling my wish, and that the method by which it fulfills it something unknown to me," he said, palms pressed together. "So really, I didn't mean to or predict that I would endanger the lives of your patients. Sorry about that."
[...]
"So what if I just killed you here and now, and return that evil fate to normal?"
Her tone was even, but the anger roiling forth from her eyes said that all she wanted to do was to attack Amane right there and then.
But he merely shrugged, unfazed by the pressure she exuded.
"Of course my death would nullify the effects of my ability, but I wouldn't recommend it. After all, if that were to happen, I would wish to not die. From my experience, there are a lot of ways that this could make you not fight me. For example, if an earthquake were to strike this place that is all but filled to the brim with people, and there were a great many casualties, you wouldn't be able to spare the time to fight me, no?"
"Can you really do that?"
"Well, I'd rather not of course. But if it comes down to it, I'm not taking responsibility, so I'd rather you not push it…"
So..... Rakudai just got a whole lot of hax, i guess.
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Btw, maybe someone should rename the thread? Ikki's stats are going to stay the way they are for quite some time, and we barely even talked about him in the first place.....
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So, i want to create a page for Amane now that we have enough information, but what should i use for his picture? There are two good ones, this and this .
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Lol, i know right? We already had some pretty hax powers, but nothing on this level.
Yeah, Amane is supposed to look and sound like a girl. Before the translations were out, i was really confused about his gender.
Yeah, Amane is supposed to look and sound like a girl. Before the translations were out, i was really confused about his gender.
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So, is there clarification on what Edelweiss' abilities are, or are her abilities just immense physical strength and speed?
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We know that she can reach her max speed without acceleration. She also can probably use Trackless Step.Crazystarf said:
She can use Blade Steal to some extent, but we don't know how good she is at it.
We did get a glimpse of her magic at the end of her fight with Ikki though:
For the first time this night, the world's strongest swordsman was serious. At that moment, a sword spirit that couldn't be compared to anything up until now poured out from Edelweiss's body. And similarly, a storm of light. Dust roiled up, and the trees creaked, and every glass window broke into tiny pieces.
A single human. While a presence unimaginably huge for a human body's dimensions spread forth, Twin-Wings Edelweiss spread the blades in both hands like wings―
"Prepare yourself."
―and soared.
Not as a child who should be protected, but as a knight whom she should show gratitude, she was aiming at one she recognized as an enemy. In order to sever that enemy's life absolutely―!
Just before things had become complicated, Ikki had certainly felt it. The footsteps of the reaper. The presence of a sharp sword that would cut away his future. If he defended, he would die―
But be that as it may, now was not like the situation then. It was different from the fight before, where he could underestimate his opponent or retreat. The forward speed of Edelweiss in seriousness could not be compared to that. To say nothing of swordsmanship, this was already to the point where Edelweiss's form had changed to light itself―
And with no sound, it all flickered for a moment before passing. Belatedly, a spray of blood flew in the darkness. Ikki Kurogane had no time to utter a sound―this time, he fell.
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Aaaand literally one day after i found the raws, the translation comes out.
Now that's convenient.
Now that's convenient.
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