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Kurogane Ikki (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry/Eiyuutan) Stat Check Part 3

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NotEvenHuman said:
Nah. Shizuku, Renren and Ayase are waaaaaay weaker than Stella when it comes to physical strength. I don't know about Touka though. She did fight Stella in the beggining of Vol. 4, let me see if anything happened that could justify scaling her.
Edit: Nope, not at all. Touka was managing close combat against Stella in the same way Ikki did: pure skill. Stella was still stronger.
Then Touka's explanation should be edited
 
AidenBrooks999 said:
Then Touka's explanation should be edited
Done.

@Lina Actually, Ikki himself mentioned that even with IS, Edelweiss was still much stronger than him. So i guess Building level is fine.
 
Question: can Stella's AP changed to "Small Town level with Magic"?

Although BS and KS are different attack with differents calcs, they have the same source of power
 
AidenBrooks999 said:
Question: can Stella's AP changed to "Small Town level with Magic"?
Although BS and KS are different attack with differents calcs, they have the same source of power
No, because these are her only attacks that are that strong. Her regular attacks are nowhere near that.
 
Aswell as Edelweiss speed to just MHS? If capable of blitzing IS and react to IR and Raikiri, I think is pretty safe to say that she is on such level
 
AidenBrooks999 said:
NotEvenHuman said:
No, because these are her only attacks that are that strong. Her regular attacks are nowhere near that.
She has more than those two (that requires magic)?
Dragon Fang and Empress Dress come to mind. Plus standard fire attacks like fireballs, large streams of fire, explosions, etc.
 
NotEvenHuman said:
Dragon Fang and Empress Dress come to mind. Plus standard fire attacks like fireballs, large streams of fire, explosions, etc.
1) Then, Ouma being Small Town with Magic, means that all his magic is on that level, or what?

2)"Small Town level with Bahamut Soul and Kalsariteo Salamandra (Her magic is stronger than Shizuku's, who can do this. Briefly matched Ouma. Was stated to be able to destroy the town where the SSSAF was taking place.)" Could this be reasonable? (Depending on the answer to the first question).
 
Ouma is Small Town level with magic because, unlike Stella, he has shown that level of power with regular attacks. He can make them weaker, of course, but he's at that level when he gets serious. For Stella, i think it's okay to have something like "Wall level to Small Town level with magic".
 
So here's a random feat for Stella:

But even so, she was one of the previous year's national top eight. She was one of Japan's elite. She would not retreat or show fear. The magic she unleashed from her monocle—a rare sight among Devices—was one that could instantly reduce the temperature of a selected area within her vision to absolute zero.

"Satin Ice!"

A glaring light wrapped in a frigid, cutting shroud shot forth from the monocle. This magic's speciality was that its effect triggered instantly upon her focusing on a target. In other words, this magic travelled at what was effectively the speed of light. In a split-second, the temperature around Stella fell below freezing point right through to absolute zero. Even liquid nitrogen, which was well-known to be able to freeze objects instantly, reached only around minus 200 degrees Celsius. No human could remain unharmed when exposed to temperatures even lower than that. It would freeze them right down to the marrow―their heart having stopped long before that. No matter the terms in which one spoke of it―activation speed, range or stopping power―it was a first-rate ability. With it Mikoto could go toe-to-toe with any of the powerhouses in the Seven Stars Sword-Art Tournament.

That was true. Only one person—

"Empress Dress."

—the strongest fire user in the world, was exempt. Turning the entirety of the utterly frozen atmosphere into steam under extreme heat, she caused it to dissipate before the raiment of roiling flames that was clad about her.



Now before anyone asks how much ice she evaporated there, we also have a quote for that:

See, as far as I know, Icy Laughter is only able to freeze a spherical space about 3 meters in diameter at the focal point of her vision.


This isn't really useful for Stella herself, but if someone calcs it, we can scale it to the durability of Shizuku's ice, which in turn would scale to another character's AP.
 
I am not sure what the "diameter at the focal point of her vision" means. Does it mean the maximum distance that your eyes are able to focus on?
 
3 meters diameter centered on the immediate center point of her vision (e.g. what she is focusing on/looking at).
 
Not sure if this is blog worthy, but I'll calc in anyways. Assuming nitrogen is being frozen.

  • Volume = [4/3*3.1416*[3m^3]] = 4.188 m^3
  • Density of frozen nitrogen: 1026.5 kg/m^3
  • Mass = [4.188 m^3]*[1026.5 kg/m^3] = ~4300kg
  • Specific heat of nitrogen or C: 1040 j/kg
Here, the gas condenses from gas to liquid, and then turns from liquid to solid.

  • Vaporization energy nitrogen = (4300 kg)(199000j/kg) = 855700000 joules
  • Q2 = (4300 kg)(1040j/kg)(20-(-196)) = 965952000 joules
  • Fusion energy nitrogen = (Mass of nitrogen)(Latent heat fusion) = (4300 kg)(25000j/kg) = 107500000 joules
  • Q1 = MC(Delta T) = (4300 kg)(1040j/kg)(-196-(-210)) = 626080000 joules
  • Vaporization + Q2 + Fusion + Q1 = 19917606000 joules, or .476 Tons of TNT Small Building level.
 
Going with NotEvenHuman's words, this Small Building feat is scalable to Shizuku's ice durability-wise and to someone else's AP.

Dunno how though. Maybe this monocle person is supposedly below Shizuku in ice powers.
 
How would this relate to the durability of Shizuku's ice again?

I would think that Shizuku's durability with the ice scales from her battle with Touka, meaning that Shizuku's ice should have Small Building level durability by default?
 
How it would scale?

Touka only used Raikiri at the end

And Shizuku only survived via PIS (I mean, Touka with regular attack was able to damage her, and Shizuku survives Raikiri naturally?)
 
@Lina Small Building level, huh? Lower than expected, but i guess it's consistent enough. Thanks anyway.

@All This scales to the durability of Shizuku's ice because of this scene in Vol. 3:

In an instant, what penetrated Stella's ear was Arisuin's voice in a blade-sharp cry. Her spine shuddered at that voice, and Stella raised her gaze, taken aback.

And she became aware.

That the points of icicles as sharp as lances had approached before her eyes.

Stella had already reflexively donned her Empress Dress, and blocked the strike from icy spears by crossing both her arms. But that strike was fast and heavy, lifting Stella's body off her feet and knocking her body into the dining room wall, smashing through it, and blowing Stella's body completely out of the dining room itself.

ÒÇîEeeek!ÒÇì

ÒÇîWh-What are you doing!?ÒÇì

Panic filled the dining room at the unexpected situation. In the middle of the noise, Stella asserted her personal ability that had received the ice spears, and…

*Crack*

…frowned at the pain reverberating through her bones. It seemed that a bone in her arm had been fractured. Stella's flame would seize and vaporize even a rifle bullet, but the best it could do was melt and blunt that sharp spear-point. Only one person here could use water magic to that degree.

"Wh-What are you doing, Shizuku!?"



The manga version of this scene is in the end of chapter 27, which is the latest translated chapter of the manga.
 
First, the feat above should scale to Stella's Empress Dress, considering that Shizuku was able to pierce it. This means that Shizuku's AP would have to at least 9-A for piercing through Stella's ED.

Secondly, there was a feat where Edelweiss was trading blows with Itto Shura Ikki for a time, although Ikki was outmatched. I was wondering if this affects either Edelweiss or Ikki's AP in any way?

Also, does anyone know when Chapter 28 is coming out?
 
Empress Dress already has Large Building level durability and Stella already has other Small Building level magic attacks, so as i said, this doesn't matter much for Stella herself. Plus, Shizuku is currently ranked as being 8-A with magic here (even if i disagree with it).

If anything, it's only another reason for Edelweiss and Ikki being 9-A.

The raws of the manga are actually already up to chapter 29. I don't know why the translation is taking so long, though the translators did say that they are slow with Rakudai. What annoys me the most is the sudden drop in translations speed in both the novel and the manga.
 
I added the Small Town level calc and linked it to Bahamut Soul. The KS calc isn't needed anymore since KS > Bahamut Soul anyways, automatically making it Small Town level.
 
Don't get me wrong, but why is called Ittou Rasetsu only?

Even if IR > Raikiri

You can't just assume that all the calc goes to Ikki, is like the Goku and Bills clash, and I say that Goku is not a relevant part
 
The value itself should be divided by 2 then, although the ratio for Rasetsu's power compared to Raikiri's power is unclear.

At least, they are even in power compared to each other.
 
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