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I actually don't think they're anything special. The one for IR is actually kinda cool, but it's even more pointless than the one for IS.
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Kurogane Ikki (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry/Eiyuutan) Stat Check Part 3
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On the subject of profile pics, i think this picture would be pretty good for Stella. Definately better than her current one.
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I will see If I can render it later
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Okay, thank you.KaenDragneel123 said:
On topic, the next fight we're going to see is Kiriko vs Amane. I'm actually pretty hyped for this one, since Kiriko is supposedly better than Shizuku when it comes to water magic, and apparently has blood manipulation. And Amane is supposedly haxed as f*ck. So let's see how that goes (lol jk, Amane fights Ikki at the quarter-finals, of course he's gonna win). Either way, there are going to be two new pages for the verse after this fight.
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The tabbed pictures at the top are unecessary but is still cool to look at. Unecessary because there are already GIFs at the skill section showing what they are. Cool because, yeah.
Kiriko and Amane sounds like a one-shot fight if both of them are haxxed as you say. That sounds badass.
Kiriko and Amane sounds like a one-shot fight if both of them are haxxed as you say. That sounds badass.
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Well, it would usually be a one-shot fight, but there are a couple of reasons it won't be:
1. Kiriko is considered to be the best water user in Japan, being superior to Shizuku (Shizuku herself acknowledges this) and it was said that if she participated in any of the previous tournaments, she would at least be in the Top 4. Misora can't just build that much hype over her and not show anything.
I could state the second reason here, but idk if you're still reading the novels, and that's kind of a spoiler.
1. Kiriko is considered to be the best water user in Japan, being superior to Shizuku (Shizuku herself acknowledges this) and it was said that if she participated in any of the previous tournaments, she would at least be in the Top 4. Misora can't just build that much hype over her and not show anything.
I could state the second reason here, but idk if you're still reading the novels, and that's kind of a spoiler.
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I found what could be a durability feat for Ikki, btw. Here:
He couldn't protect himself, and blood sprayed from Ikki's brow after he took a stone hand to his head. He had warded off the stone hand with Ten'i Muhou, but there were too many enemies, unfortunately. An attack he couldn't parry and cut through had come.
This happens when he's in Okutama fighting Reisen's rock golems. Here is an AP feat for them:
Together with the bellows of the stone dolls, many stone fists swung down on Utakata's back, aiming at the top of his head. They were hard fists that could even hit Ikki who was clad in Ten'i Muhou. If they hit a human's soft skull directly, they would surely pulverize it in one hit.
"Misogi-san, behind you!"
Ikki cried out at that impending danger.
But Utakata pasted a smile on his face, and didn't move his body one bit at what was happening behind him.
―The stone fists, they blasted away everything above Utakata's neck.
"Wh…!"
"Eek…!"
At that sight, Ikki and Stella widened their eyes and became speechless. With the strength of the stone fists, Utakata's skull had been smashed like a tomato. His small headless body fell into the storm-dampened mud, without moving a twitch. That was the decisive ending that anyone could see.
"Too bad, but that was a trick, you know?"
The next instant, Utakata who should be dead was sitting on the shoulder of the stone doll that had killed him.
"Aha~☆ I tried to tell you about this, didn't I?"
"…Huh? E-Ehhh!?"
Utakata smiled giddily as if nothing had happened. At that sight, Stella raised her voice in confusion. And while Ikki didn't raise his voice as well, he was equally confused. Certainly, he saw Utakata's skull being crushed with his own eyes. The pink brain matter had been scattered, slightly mixed with white bone tissue. The grotesque image was still etched onto the back of his eyelids. It was an unmistakable reality.
How strong would the golem need to be to do that to a human head?
He couldn't protect himself, and blood sprayed from Ikki's brow after he took a stone hand to his head. He had warded off the stone hand with Ten'i Muhou, but there were too many enemies, unfortunately. An attack he couldn't parry and cut through had come.
This happens when he's in Okutama fighting Reisen's rock golems. Here is an AP feat for them:
Together with the bellows of the stone dolls, many stone fists swung down on Utakata's back, aiming at the top of his head. They were hard fists that could even hit Ikki who was clad in Ten'i Muhou. If they hit a human's soft skull directly, they would surely pulverize it in one hit.
"Misogi-san, behind you!"
Ikki cried out at that impending danger.
But Utakata pasted a smile on his face, and didn't move his body one bit at what was happening behind him.
―The stone fists, they blasted away everything above Utakata's neck.
"Wh…!"
"Eek…!"
At that sight, Ikki and Stella widened their eyes and became speechless. With the strength of the stone fists, Utakata's skull had been smashed like a tomato. His small headless body fell into the storm-dampened mud, without moving a twitch. That was the decisive ending that anyone could see.
"Too bad, but that was a trick, you know?"
The next instant, Utakata who should be dead was sitting on the shoulder of the stone doll that had killed him.
"Aha~☆ I tried to tell you about this, didn't I?"
"…Huh? E-Ehhh!?"
Utakata smiled giddily as if nothing had happened. At that sight, Stella raised her voice in confusion. And while Ikki didn't raise his voice as well, he was equally confused. Certainly, he saw Utakata's skull being crushed with his own eyes. The pink brain matter had been scattered, slightly mixed with white bone tissue. The grotesque image was still etched onto the back of his eyelids. It was an unmistakable reality.
How strong would the golem need to be to do that to a human head?
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Meh, pulverize something like a skull... Isn't that impressive
I mean, even atomize a full human body is just Building level so...
I mean, even atomize a full human body is just Building level so...
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Ikki's durability isn't anything impressive either, you know. It's Wall+ at best. This is an actual feat. Better than nothing, right?
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Is way better to wait until the next manga chapter.
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Yes, even the weakest blazers are superhuman (Even if Sara Bloodlily is coming really close to disproving this).
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Then be patience dudeNotEvenHuman said:
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Well, remember that Amane vs Kiriko fight? Yeah, apparently that's not happening anymore. Amane is keeping his trend of winning by forfeit and using his hax to make the condition of all of Kiriko's patients worsen suddenly right before their match.
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Well, that happened.
At least it seems that Ikki figured out what his power is, so we can maybe make a page for him in the future. Utakata (the one who fought him when Akatsuki attacked Hagun) also woke up from his week-long coma and is trying to contact the main cast to warn them about Amane. So hopefully Amane's power is explained next week. The only information we have on him is his page on the Rakudai wiki, but i'm not really confortable with using untranslated material here.
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Well, that happened.
At least it seems that Ikki figured out what his power is, so we can maybe make a page for him in the future. Utakata (the one who fought him when Akatsuki attacked Hagun) also woke up from his week-long coma and is trying to contact the main cast to warn them about Amane. So hopefully Amane's power is explained next week. The only information we have on him is his page on the Rakudai wiki, but i'm not really confortable with using untranslated material here.
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Utakata is the vice-president of Hagun's student council, and the resident shota with probability manipulation. The guy in the middle of this picture.
Yeah, i was pretty hyped to see Kiriko fighting ever since she owned Yui at the party before the tournament. Oh well. Misora is probably saving her for a more important point in the series, like a war arc or something.
Yeah, i was pretty hyped to see Kiriko fighting ever since she owned Yui at the party before the tournament. Oh well. Misora is probably saving her for a more important point in the series, like a war arc or something.
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So, i noticed that Edelweiss has her durability listed as "Unknown, at least Small Town level". Is there any particular reasoning behind this? Rakudai's durability feats are waaaay inferior than their AP feats. I think Edelweiss's durability should remain at Unknown.
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1. She didn't.Alakabamm said:
2. Ikki's best move is nowhere near Small Town level.
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Ikki's feats in base are around Wall level, and even if they were higher, he never used Ittou Rasetsu against Edelweiss.Alakabamm said:
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Possibly Room, not be bad with ikki
(Also NotEvenHuman, even if they dont fight yet... Should be ittou shura Large Building level via powerscaling from Stella's empire dress?)
(Also NotEvenHuman, even if they dont fight yet... Should be ittou shura Large Building level via powerscaling from Stella's empire dress?)
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1. Stella never used Empress Dress against Ikki.
2. I'm pretty sure i already said this a few times, but Stella only had her Small/Large Building level durability after her training with Nene.
2. I'm pretty sure i already said this a few times, but Stella only had her Small/Large Building level durability after her training with Nene.
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1. She used, Sherlock
2. Again, like I said, POWERSCALING
I was asking
2. Again, like I said, POWERSCALING
I was asking
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1. If you're talking about their fight in Vol. 9, then we don't know if she did. If you're talking about the one in Vol. 1, then she only uses it in the anime. There is no mention of it in the novels, and it's pretty obvious that she doesn't use it in the manga. The anime changes stuff. And that is... elementary, dear Watson.
2. You're powerscaling backwards if it's the first fight. We don't do that. If it's the one in Vol. 9, we don't have enough information.
2. You're powerscaling backwards if it's the first fight. We don't do that. If it's the one in Vol. 9, we don't have enough information.
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Well, depth is a big unknown and craters tend to be extremely variable in depth especially when they are huge ones that span up to 1 km or more.
So a lowball would just be the length of the arena/4 or just the height of the arena itself I guess (assuming that he barely destroyed everything in a cylinder like fashion).
So a lowball would just be the length of the arena/4 or just the height of the arena itself I guess (assuming that he barely destroyed everything in a cylinder like fashion).
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However, it specifically stated that it made a gash in the ground. Go to google and search what a gash looks like because it's not worksafe to post it here.
Also, all of the arena were completely obliterated. All 15 of them, so there is no need to divide by 4. Perhaps I can make a gash look like a cylinder, but that would makes the AP of the value even bigger.
What I did in the calc was line up all the 15 arenas into a line, considered that the length of the gash, and found the energy required to pulverize the 15 arena as well as the energy required to pulverize the rock in order to make the shape of a gash.
The easiest way to calculate the gash would be to make two cones, attach the cones together, and cut the cone in half.
If there was an animated scene for this, it would be a lot easier.
Also, all of the arena were completely obliterated. All 15 of them, so there is no need to divide by 4. Perhaps I can make a gash look like a cylinder, but that would makes the AP of the value even bigger.
What I did in the calc was line up all the 15 arenas into a line, considered that the length of the gash, and found the energy required to pulverize the 15 arena as well as the energy required to pulverize the rock in order to make the shape of a gash.
The easiest way to calculate the gash would be to make two cones, attach the cones together, and cut the cone in half.
- The length of the two cones = length of the arena*15.
- The width of the cone would be the diameter of the arena,
- Depth of the two cones cut in half (depth of gash) would be the radius of the arena.
- To find the volume of the two cones cut in half, it is V = (Pi)*(radius^2)*(height/3)
If there was an animated scene for this, it would be a lot easier.
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Large Town level Ouma it is? Personally I think Ouma made a bigger gash and oblierated a large chunk of the city (which brings us an enormous value), but for now, this is ok.
Want me to do the high end?
Want me to do the high end?
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I think saying Ouma destroyed a part of the city is going a bit too far, considering that not only we don't know what is Hagun's exact position in the city, but also that, in the context of the story, doing something like destroying part of the city like that would essentially make Akatsuki's plan crash and burn in a really ironic way, and the series would have taken a much different route.
Also, Large Town level just seems more consistent all around, considering how easily he redirected Bahamut Soul.
Also, Large Town level just seems more consistent all around, considering how easily he redirected Bahamut Soul.
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i stills REALLY disliking that calc, though
I mean, I read the feat, but i dont understand: where the measuraments come from?
Yes, you made a pixel scaling, from what?
I mean, I read the feat, but i dont understand: where the measuraments come from?
Yes, you made a pixel scaling, from what?
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So, first KS matched that, and now a more powerful attack (Bahamut Soul) gets "easily redirected"?NotEvenHuman said:
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Bahamut Soul isn't more powerful than KS. It was never stated or implied to be, and KS is actually superior feat-wise.
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Since this is a novel feat, you actually have to read the text a bit carefully here to see what things look like and stuff, such as words describing that the object's shape and stuff.
Anyways, not doing novel feats again because it is hard as diamonds to calculate stuff like this anyways.
Plus, KS is much stronger than Bahamut soul, which you calculated to be Small Town level (wasn't there a radiating glow in a hemisphere during that feat though?)
Anyways, not doing novel feats again because it is hard as diamonds to calculate stuff like this anyways.
Plus, KS is much stronger than Bahamut soul, which you calculated to be Small Town level (wasn't there a radiating glow in a hemisphere during that feat though?)
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1- Yeah, but I still don't get itCrazystarf said:
2- I imagine that
3- For what NEH said, no
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Gosh.Crazystarf said:
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So, can we just update Ikki and everyone else? Kaen linked a few calcs made for the series to some members of the calc group a few days ago (the one he made for Bahamut Soul, and Crazystarf's calcs for Reisen and Stella breaking the floor) and they were all accepted. So why are the profiles still rated as "Unknown" for physical stats?
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