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Also, Conqueror's Haki can wipe out the numbers significantly.
It wont take out anyone important.
So, due to Jiraya's Sound Genjutsu, and Itachi's Finger Genjutsu, the Straw Hats have absolutely no Wincon?
Not that they have no wincon its just solidly in Konoha's hands. Also Orochimaru's has the ability to revive the first and second hogake who also have some stronge abilities of their own. So he is also a powerful contender.
Removed the arbitrary characters (Itachi is not present in Konoha during the Pain Arc, Jiraya and Orochimaru are dead) to balance it out, otherwise, the SH literally have no Wincon at all.
LOL, this is kinda hilarious, so you know the most powerful character here isi Tsunade and I guess Naruto with the rest being practicaly inconsequential against a bunch of High 7-A characters, and you also say that Tsuande has no chance at all to land any hits. Yet you decide to add some other characters that can help btut now you realize that the SH can be beat so you remove all of them.

Someone close this stomp match please.
 
It wont take out anyone important.
It will take out the numbers.

Not that they have no wincon its just solidly in Konoha's hands. Also Orochimaru's has the ability to revive the first and second hogake who also have some stronge abilities of their own. So he is also a powerful contender.
They have NO wincon at all.

LOL, this is kinda hilarious, so you know the most powerful character here isi Tsunade and I guess Naruto with the rest being practicaly inconsequential against a bunch of High 7-A characters, and you also say that Tsuande has no chance at all to land any hits. Yet you decide to add some other characters that can help btut now you realize that the SH can be beat so you remove all of them.

Someone close this stomp match please.
Oh my god, just stop whining about a random match on the forum, jesus. I gave a perfectly fair reason to remove characters who are NOT EVEN PRESENT IN THE ARC, as they would make the match-up completely impossible for each side. Also, I conceded on their defeat with those characters after a relatively short conversation. Don't get salty because I removed characters which aren't even supposed to be there in the first place, read the post, it's supposed to be balanced. Having guaranteed victory for any side regardless of condition or scenario is not balanced.

Also,

It won't take out anyone important

Only Tsunade and Naruto are important.
 
lmao this thread
round 1 even with the removal i still think with prep Konoha overwhelms with numbers/hax
round 2 SH blitz
 
Oh my god, just stop whining about a random match on the forum, jesus. I gave a perfectly fair reason to remove characters who are NOT EVEN PRESENT IN THE ARC, as they would make the match-up completely impossible for each side. Also, I conceded on their defeat with those characters after a relatively short conversation. Don't get salty because I removed characters which aren't even supposed to be there in the first place, read the post, it's supposed to be balanced. Having guaranteed victory for any side regardless of condition or scenario is not balanced.
but its not balanced, what Naruto can do against Zoro and Luffy?
 
Anyway, if most people here declare the removal of the arbitrary characters was unfair, I will concede and give the win to Konoha on the first round. Please speak up if you think so.
 
Oh my god, just stop whining about a random match on the forum, jesus. I gave a perfectly fair reason to remove characters who are NOT EVEN PRESENT IN THE ARC, as they would make the match-up completely impossible for each side. Also, I conceded on their defeat with those characters after a relatively short conversation. Don't get salty because I removed characters which aren't even supposed to be there in the first place, read the post, it's supposed to be balanced. Having guaranteed victory for any side regardless of condition or scenario is not balanced.

Also,
LMAO whining cause I can see an obvious stomp match when you were the one that made a stomp in the first place you are literally the person that called someone a "condescending PoS" cause they did not get your OP, and your overall tone has been downright deplorable. Yes I know they arent present which is why I wondered why you have SH attack konoha at this point when you know damn well that it can not be a fair match in the first place. I am not getting salty I am saying dont make obvious stomps.
 
but its not balanced, what Naruto can do against Zoro and Luffy?
Naruto stomps Zoro with Sage Mode, and matched Gear 4th Luffy, he also has Durability Negation as well.

It's a whole Village against 10 pirates, there's more than two characters for Konoha.
 
LMAO whining cause I can see an obvious stomp match when you were the one that made a stomp in the first place you are literally the person that called someone a "condescending PoS" cause they did not get your OP, and your overall tone has been downright deplorable. Yes I know they arent present which is why I wondered why you have SH attack konoha at this point when you know damn well that it can not be a fair match in the first place. I am not getting salty I am saying dont make obvious stomps.
Back the f up. I honestly do not care about my tone, so I will just ignore that portion. I can be rather rude, but I am not unfair, I always concede when I see that I am wrong. That is just bad judgement of my character.

You are claiming I'm making this out of bias for the SH to stomp? It was a stomp for Konoha with the dead character, and now it's a stomp for the SH for not having them? What?

Aight, whatever. If it really is a stomp, and no one comes with an argument for Konoha, I will just delete this. You can leave now, if you want.
 
Naruto could maybe take one of the stronger SH's with sage mode before he is screwed then all we have is tsuande, kakashi could be a help with kamui but I doubt it would be that useful in his 7-C form.
 
he doesnt, precog + dura neg, naruto dura neg comes from rasenshuriken, naruto can only use 2 rasenshuriken before losing sage mode and becoming a fodder 7-A
His Durability Negation does not come just from Rasenshuriken?
"Limited Durability Negation (Can ignore the outer defense of targets and accurately perform internal damage by sending chakra waves into them with Frog Strike)"

Also, Sage Naruto has a much better arsenal than Zoro, and advantage in sheer AP. Zoro can't do much against AoE attacks.
 
I honestly do not care about my tone
Thats fine, but I and others do and will care about your tone in this forum.
You are claiming I'm making this out of bias for the SH to stomp
I mean it kinda looks like it with some of your arguments, many of them being completely wrong. Though I would admit that you do in fact concede.
I will just delete this
I dont think users are allowed to delete posts.
 
Naruto could maybe take one of the stronger SH's with sage mode before he is screwed then all we have is tsuande, kakashi could be a help with kamui but I doubt it would be that useful in his 7-C form.
Sage Naruto could easily deal with Sanji and Zoro, he would only struggle against Gear 4th Luffy. Tsunade can take care of Sanji when she realizes his obvious weakness (and because Sanji probably wouldn't let Zoro fight Tsunade in-front of him)
 
His Durability Negation does not come just from Rasenshuriken?
"Limited Durability Negation (Can ignore the outer defense of targets and accurately perform internal damage by sending chakra waves into them with Frog Strike)"
Oh sure, I forgot that, I was thinking about this ''Limited Durability Negation (Rasenshuriken does damage by specifically attacking and damaging the cells of his targets),''
 
Thats fine, but I and others do and will care about your tone in this forum.

There seems to be a misconception. I do not have empathy about the way you feel about my tone. It's completely subjective to you.

I mean it kinda looks like it with some of your arguments, many of them being completely wrong. Though I would admit that you do in fact concede.
I am not trying to be biased towards any series. I just wanted a fun match, not "Lol, get Genjutsu'd in the literal first two seconds"...
I dont think users are allowed to delete posts.
Oof.
 
I do not have empathy about the way you feel about my tone. It's completely subjective to you.
I dont care that you dont feel empathy my point is that you could get reported if you continue that way, not really by me since I rarely care to report people over behaviour unless it is really bad. Ah wait I remember you now from the report thread... it all makes sense lmfao.
 
Tsunade could beat both, Sanji easily (due to his weakness), and then could deal with Zoro. Naruto can probably beat Jinbei without Sage Mode, and the fodder ninjas, jonin and anbu can deal with the weaker Straw Hats.
Luffy would probably take most of the weaker ones out with Conqueror's Haki, and have to deal with sheer numbers of the stronger jonin.
So, I think there's a lot of room for each group to win.
 
I dont care that you dont feel empathy my point is that you could get reported if you continue that way, not really by me since I rarely care to report people over behaviour unless it is really bad. Ah wait I remember you now from the report thread... it all makes sense lmfao.
"I don't care if you don't care"
Way to go, Einstein.

Get over yourself, ffs. I do not care.

Also, what thread are you talking about?
 
Damn, Trio Monster Take This Easly, but Im not Going to Debate anyone Here Since I don't Know who's gonna Fight with them.
 
Also, since Konoha has prep time, wouldn't Naruto have at least two clones to refill his Sage Mode? He can take out at least three of the strongest S.H
 
Is team guy present? And is naruto allowed to enter 4 or 6 tails if he's about to lose?
Main issues here IMO are luffy and zoro for obvious reasons (I don't think anybody here can beat luffy 1vs1) and possibly brook with his sleep manip, sanjis invisibility shouldn't be much of an issue due to byakugan users and sensory ninja
If chopper goes monster form Kakashi might kamui gg him away
 
Is team guy present?
Yes. It's all of Konoha (during the Pain Arc)
And is naruto allowed to enter 4 or 6 tails if he's about to lose?
Any keys or forms beyond High 7-A are restricted.
Main issues here IMO are luffy and zoro for obvious reasons (I don't think anybody here can beat luffy 1vs1) and possibly brook with his sleep manip, sanjis invisibility shouldn't be much of an issue due to byakugan users and sensory ninja
If chopper goes monster form Kakashi might kamui gg him away
I personally think Sage Mode Naruto can beat Zoro, Tsunade obviously deals with Sanji, and there can be a team effort to take down Luffy.
 
I think some of the mid tiers have resistance to it.
Only Kakashi and Sakura have resistance to genjutsu, and I'm generous calling it resistance.
Sanji is utterly helpless against a Woman. They are in character.
I think he means that sanji wont attack her cuz she is woamn, but i dont think that she can deceat him as well
Oh yeah, but I doubt that Sanji'd be her primary target.

Robin can crack everyone's neck as well. What're they doing about her?
 
Only Kakashi and Sakura have resistance to genjutsu, and I'm generous calling it resistance.
Naruto is literally immune to it due to being a Jinchuriki, right? Also,
"Resistance to Sleep Inducement (Resisted Itachi's attempt to put him to sleep)" in Naruto's Profile.


Oh yeah, but I doubt that Sanji'd be her primary target.
You know Sanji will react to her almost immediately, which will probably leave Tsunade in disgust and expose his weakness.
Robin can crack everyone's neck as well. What're they doing about her?
Konoha has the number advantage and prep time. I'm sure Robin will be well occupied.
 
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