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Killer Queen's Sin (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure vs Devil May Cry | 5-1-1)

Based on what's accepted, at least +1 for both.
in theory it could go up to +3 ESP and +2 NPI, but that involves shit that isnt accepted and i dont have on hand so shrug.
Well, in that case, Dante wouldn't be able to interact with the Stand directly, but nothing prevents him from interacting with its user except the Stand itself

Aside from that, I'm going to think of a couple of arguments in favor of Dante, although the truth is that personally I feel that Kira has the upper hand here...
 
Well, in that case, Dante wouldn't be able to interact with the Stand directly, but nothing prevents him from interacting with its user except the Stand itself

Aside from that, I'm going to think of a couple of arguments in favor of Dante, although the truth is that personally I feel that Kira has the upper hand here...
Before you say anything, ask yourself if a dude that is 128x quicker and starts off stronger that also on contact can vaporize stuff so throughouly that even leftover dust is disintegrated, could somehow prevent it.
all while a mini bomb that is 30x stronger than him is on his ass.

Because like, I don't wanna hear "yo Dante shoots him" when there's a mf who can just tap the bullets and dust them as they move at a snail's pace.
 
Before you say anything, ask yourself if a dude that is 128x quicker and starts off stronger that also on contact can vaporize stuff so throughouly that even leftover dust is disintegrated, could somehow prevent it.

Because like, I don't wanna hear "yo Dante shoots him" when there's a mf who can just tap the bullets and dust them as they move at a snail's pace.
Oh, don't worry, I'm thinking of unconventional methods, although it may sound a bit 'far-fetched,' but it's better than the previous ones...
 
Oh, don't worry, I'm thinking of unconventional methods, although it may sound a bit 'far-fetched,' but it's better than the previous ones...
Please don't list OOC stuff or stuff that'd never actually realistically happen 🫠
otherwise im gonna argue Kira turns the air around them into a bomb, and instantly transfer that shit to dante at blitz lv speeds, because he can in fact do that.
 
Please don't list OOC stuff or stuff that'd never actually realistically happen 🫠
otherwise im gonna argue Kira turns the air around them into a bomb, and instantly transfer that shit to dante at blitz lv speeds, because he can in fact do that.
BL Kira wrecks stuff like idk black clover
 
Please don't list OOC stuff or stuff that'd never actually realistically happen 🫠
otherwise im gonna argue Kira turns the air around them into a bomb, and instantly transfer that shit to dante at blitz lv speeds, because he can in fact do that.
Well, if we had started from there... Yes, I will definitely vote for Kira. Although the real debate here is to understand how this wouldn't be a stomp if everything mentioned were applied exactly as stated.
 
Can we get an actual DMC supporter, holy shit. Killer Queen cannot even kill Dante at all.

"Dante doesn't have his name in Key 1" wtf? Wtf?? This is an accepted argument that eveyone saw and voted?
 
Can we get an actual DMC supporter, holy shit. Killer Queen cannot even kill Dante at all.

"Dante doesn't have his name in Key 1" wtf? Wtf?? This is an accepted argument that eveyone saw and voted?
SBA naturally makes Dante have his name here (in fact, the key already starts with that), the issue is not that Killer Queen can definitively kill Dante, but that incapacitation counts as a victory...
 
Can we get an actual DMC supporter, holy shit. Killer Queen cannot even kill Dante at all.

"Dante doesn't have his name in Key 1" wtf? Wtf?? This is an accepted argument that eveyone saw and voted?
Yuh huh, we're using Tony last I checked.

Also wasn't an argument but go on.
 
unless he has 4-D resistances or some shit i don't see kira surviving this
"Crush", unless you're arguing that shit is low 2-C because 4D which, lmao, that isn't a hax thing, it's an actual stat thing.

Get that shit on the actual profiles first before yapping.
 

Demonic Energy​

Demonic Energy, which is the main source of power of the demons in the verse, is 3D instead of 4D

So nothing is 4D?​

Nope, the characters only have this scale of hax if and only if they bypass resistances at that level. While the demons don't have the DWE, they still resist its effects, which give them some 4D resistances, which means, characters that can hax them even with them having resistance from DWE, should scale.
 
And Kira is like 3 steps above crippling fear hax due to random ass interview statement putting him at Jotaro's lv?
We've gone over this.
it was accepted in the hax layer thread

with like 7+ layers
Maybe for ******* peak Dante dude, not baby key 1 Dante.
 

accepted here
So not actually accepted nor on the profiles nor on the verse page nor accepted in a actual CRT so not actually accepted?

man you like, know that thread ain't an actual CRT thread and is 90% yap right?
 
dude you are grasping at straws at this point
No, I'm telling you flatout a sandbox that isn't accepted in a CRT nor on the profiles, isn't accepted, don't like it? To bad, get over it.

Goddamn imagine having to actually explain that stuff needs to be actually accepted in a real thread and on profiles first before you can use it in matches.
 
Chariot is trying to save his Jojo streak but Dante the goat comes with 4D and 7 Layers with Immortality 9 sweep

Anyways I will call @Tony_di_bugalu
What the **** are you yapping about? There's a limit to how obnoxious you can be ya know.

Get it accepted then, in a real thread and actually have it on the shit we use, and how about actually answering the simple question given you keep clinging to that immortality like your life depends on it. How quick is it? In key 1? Surely you actually know given you keep talking about it.
 
What the **** are you yapping about? There's a limit to how obnoxious you can be ya know.
Not for me, I am limitless
Get it accepted then, in a real thread and actually have it on the shit we use,
Hax Layer Evaluation is LITERALLY CREATED TO ACCEPT LAYERS. Thats the point of it.
How quick is it? In key 1? Surely you actually know given you keep talking about it.
Nah no idea, thats why I asked people to wait for DMC supporters before voting.
 
Not for me, I am limitless
Probably something you should fix.
Hax Layer Evaluation is LITERALLY CREATED TO ACCEPT LAYERS. Thats the point of it.
Not an actual CRT, not how this shit works. This shit ain't on the profiles, verse pages, and the hax eval thread started off as just funny haha f&g. The fact I need to explain this to you and Robo, who's been here long enough to know damn well how this works, is actively depressing.
Nah no idea, thats why I asked people to wait for DMC supporters before voting.
So you've just been talking out your ass?
 
Not an actual CRT, not how this shit works. This shit ain't on the profiles, verse pages, and the hax eval thread started off as just funny haha f&g. The fact I need to explain this to you and Robo, who's been here long enough to know damn well how this works, is actively depressing.
I asked about this in the past, iirc you can either make a CRT for layers or get Staff to accept it in Hax eval thread. Do you have any actual arguments against the layers other than acting like it simply does not exists?
So you've just been talking out your ass?
I have repeatedly stated I have no idea how DMC works, and was going off profiles. Since the Physilogy pages does not say that Immo or a Regen takes overtime I said that it should reform Dante quickly

I literally admit Idk if its fast enough or not and asked people to wait for DMC supporters.
I am not a DMC supporter but from what I know it is combat appicable, we should probably call a DMC supporter here though.
 
I asked about this in the past, iirc you can either make a CRT for layers or get Staff to accept it in Hax eval thread. Do you have any actual arguments against the layers other than acting like it simply does not exists?
I'm not humoring this, get it actually accepted, get it actually on the profile as opposed to a thing that says the exact opposite, and then we can talk.

And yeah, for a few things, obviously not all, but then again pretty glaring issue you're forgetting but we'll get there if you actually, ya know, get that shit accepted.
I have repeatedly stated I have no idea how DMC works, and was going off profiles. Since the Physilogy pages does not say that Immo or a Regen takes overtime I said that it should reform Dante quickly
That isn't how this works, the fact it specifies that low demons have to form new bodies out of shit just laying around, this isn't worded as instant, it doesn't inherently imply it takes forever, but basic english suggests not instantaneous but vague in actual length of time. There's no implication of either or.

I asked, you've failed to give an answer, I don't want "should" I want an actual answer, if you can't supply it, stop talking.
I literally admit Idk if its fast enough or not and asked people to wait for DMC supporters.
Then stop acting like it is, untill it's shown fast enough to outspeed something 128x quicker than him, it's not really a viable option, same goes for any hax he might have.
 
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