"Nah, IB "negation" works by returning everything to the natural untouched phase. Ainz may be natural to his world but he is not natural in this base phase so he would be negated like everything else" -quoted from Zensum.Akreious said:
Sorry, just getting more and more frustrated when he tries to call me out on my arguments even though I linked all my sources while he himself has yet to do anything of the sort; at best posting an out of context panel and expects me to know what the context of it is or what the blast of energy is. (In response to the Death Command with new information) If it's a part of Ars Magna, that circles back around to it affecting reality itself. That's flat out supernatural. Imagine Breaker is going to 100% negate that; it's different in function from Ainz's spells since Mana itself is a 100% natural thing in the world unlike the literal warping of reality that is Ars Magna. Of course, I have no idea on what the heck Ars Magna is beyond what the wiki says and what forum people says so I'm open to enlightenment I guess?TacticalNuke002 said:
I literally pulled it off the wikis page.Akreious said:
If it's equal no one can speed blitz then k. "Piercing through a wide area of earth with Ainz at its center, one thousand, two thousand—no, an uncountable number of bone spears exploded forth. The white spears scattered and crashed repeatedly into the magic barrier." They seem to start from him and fly at the target if so this is easily countered. Regardless, Touma's precog can easily figure out if an attack is below his feet like he did with Scarlet Stone of Pexjarva, body movment and gestures dont matter when it comes to this as he can predict Vento's style which uses unrelated getures while sending her attacks to her opponent at unrelated trajectories. His reflexes are a subconsious 6th sense not a purposful reaction so seeing Ainz isnt really an issue. Even If the attack just comes up from the ground like you say he can counter it like he did with Earth Golem Ellis, Black Wings, Crossbow...etcDeathNoodles said:
He definitely wouldn't underestimate Touma once he sees him dodging his attacks at multiple directions, so your argument kind of falls in on itself by having Touma being seen as a "weak human" or "ordinary boy". Also with speed equalised here, even if he can react to such attacks, how can he dodge them when they move faster than his body can move (due to Attack Speed not being covered by speed equal, since they don't depend upon the user's speed)? And please don't use PIS scenarios.CoreOfimBalance(COB) said:
Here's how to quote someone without blotting out this thread.DeathNoodles said:
Scatter attacks wont be an issue he can negate birdways uncountable Water and Earth Tarot spam. His precog allows him to subconsiously predict and counter attacks far faster than him using his human speed. It would be like that even speed equalizied since precog isn't effected by the rule. His precog is based like a 6th sense not sight so invisibility while he can't hit ainz he can still dodge like he would normally. Touma would just negate black hole or anything else that spawns on his postion like he did against the HR. Besides Ainz hasnt used blackhole really or in that manner and invisisbility really in a fight. I doubt the battle gets this far for these far off scenarios.DeathNoodles said:
I'm not exactly using a PC you know, so it's not easy for me to do it every time.CoreOfimBalance(COB) said:
I'm pretty sure he would use Invisibility at a distance where Touma can't see him so that he won't know that Ainz can go invisible. It's perfectly in-character for Ainz to start popping out invisibility and other vital abilities if he knows that Touma can't see him use it after all (like how he doesn't bring out his main equipments against the mind-controlled Shalltear, in fear that an enemy sees him with it).Yomi Schwarz said:
Nope wrong.Yomi Schwarz said:
Homing isnt an issue. Attacks that zero in on touma just get predicted like when he anticipated Othinus's meme crossbow. Which is based on the world bending to accomidate her attack into its target. I really only see this fight as basically Touma, who Ainz sees as an ordinary kid, running up to him and Ainz probably uses his signature death hax and before he sees it gets shruged off he gets tapped and negated.DeathNoodles said:
No, hes going to pull a magic wardrobe out, and change in there.Yomi Schwarz said:
Yup thats touma's M.O. in pretty much all his battles. Runs up to give a decisisve blow to his opponents. He's deff fought same or worse tbh than a talking skeleton (Innocenteus, Ellis, Gabriel..etc) and hes really only 5 meters away. Ainz will probably be too shocked to act as Touma ignores his death hax and closes in or will try to block since hes stll just only proven to be a regular kid physically and he gets neagted. The fight probably barley lasts a few minutes.DeathNoodles said:
